Comment from: andyr [Member] Email
King Ed,

You don't have kids, right? My two kids love "Love". They are big Beatles fans but don't have the hang ups that us adults do for these "new" songs. The "stars on 45" aspect does bug me but some of the mash-ups work pretty well. The one I think is the best is the drums of "Tomorrow Never Knows" mashed up with the vocals of "Within Without You"

Also, King, I know you are also writing fror Phawker. We better not see any recycled articles on RTH or Fingeroff will be PISSED.
01/26/07 @ 06:25
Comment from: Mr. Moderator [Member]
I've got kids, Ed, and they think this one's a turd too. I hear you regarding references to The Conversation. Beatlemania leads to some sad roads.
01/26/07 @ 09:22
Comment from: sammymaudlin [Member]
My hunch is King Ed was predisposed to dislike this album. I on the otherhand was reallly looking forward to it. Mashups aren't great art generally but I enjoy the cleverness and surprises of some of them. I heard one I think that was I'm Waiting for The Man mashed with Sugar, Sugar. I enjoyed that in the same way I enjoyed Dr. Demento's show.

I was looking forward to spinning Love and playing the "oh that came from _____" game with it.

Sadly the senior Martin and his Mini-Me dropped the ball, big time. With perhaps two mildliy sastisfying exceptions (which escape me at the momenet) all the mashing was left to the transitions between songs. I don't even need GarageBand to do that. I could do that on my TRS-80 .
01/26/07 @ 09:40
Comment from: KingEd [Member]
Listen, fans of this Love album, watch where it might lead. Once you start focusing on the birds tweeting in the background, you're off the path. You're headed for that late-night tumbler of scotch in the Archie Bunker chair.

Speaking of Phawker, I've got a piece submitted on the new Sloan album. I'd love to say more about my feelings on it, but I don't want to shoot my wad. I'll let you know if it runs.
01/26/07 @ 09:55
Comment from: saturnismine [Member] Email
before hearing it, i couldn't decide:

-was "love" simply a collaboration with 'cirque' that got more attention than anyone ever intended because it used beatles material?

-or was it yet another result of the beatles camp's traditional "gotta get some new product out for christmas" mindset?

after hearing the music, i figure it's a little bit of both. no question it could probably be best enjoyed in its circus tent context (if you like that sort of thing, which i don't). but since it IS a "new way" to hear beatles tunes, the folks who stand to make the $$$ from this must've known that people would gobble it up.

ed, i'm not sure i "get" your "late night tumbler of scotch" theme, but whatev. i don't like "love" either.

i find the choices they made WAY too chatty and nattering...listening to all these incongruous associations between this white album song, and that pepper song, this drum track from 66 with that guitar part from 69, or whatever, makes me feel as if there's an overly excited, uncritical beatles fan in the room with me saying:

"isn't this combination cool? isn't this great? don't you just LOVE this? the beatles were such geniuses it's as if they KNEW in '67 that this drum part would work with this vocal from '70!!! it's really too bad we don't have any new beatles songs to listen to isn't it? but this is the next best thing! it was made by George Martin you know??? etc. etc. etc."

but it seems that i'm not alone in feeling this way. the fact that even andre gardner has taken to playing "just the middle channel" on sunday mornings, so that we can hear "john's exceptional vocal performance on I am the Walrus, like we've never heard it before", is evidence enough that even the most indiscriminant, totally accepting beatles fans can't really get into the tunes the way they are presented on "love".

and mark my words. "love" is one step closer to their inevitable publication of the raw tracks themselves. That's where all this is leading, isn't it? IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ONE CHRISTMAS SEASON.

oh, and, sorry to go pince nez on you, ed, but what we hear at the beginning of "love" is not "backing vocals" as you suggest. it's not lead either. it's just...the song's vocals. it's not as if another lead track is recorded over those harmonies, right? it's a 3 part harmony (albeit tracked a couple of times) w/ no distinction between lead, or backing vocal. since all three parts are presented, it's not backing vocals.

once again, a fun read, ed! thanks.

art
01/26/07 @ 10:14
Comment from: Oats [Member]
I agree with much of what Art says. It does have an annoying circus vibe, as if "Mr. Kite" was the epitome of the Beatles' achievements. I'm very, very bored by most of Love, and I'm not even remotely anti-mash-up. All it really has going for it is a nice cleaned-up sound. Part of me suspects it will be forgotten by the public at large eventually, just like those '70s compilations like Rock 'n' Roll Music and the movie-music one. Although I've learned to get behind these Beatles repackagings that connect with the young 'uns, like this and The Beatles: 1, another compilation I initially turned my nose up at.

Maybe there's some kind of equation -- of all the Beatles repackagings per decade, a few will actually stick: the Red and Blue albums, 1, a few others.

Finally, Let it Be Naked -- underrated, I say!
01/26/07 @ 11:11
Comment from: sammymaudlin [Member]
Finally, Let it Be Naked -- underrated, I say!
Expand if you would. I was all lined up to buy this but then read some reviews and got an earfull from Mr. Moderator and ultimately passed. It is definitely something that I want to like.
01/26/07 @ 11:40
Comment from: Oats [Member]
Firstly, let it be noted that I also dissed Naked, in the other Rock Town Hall. However, I've since revised my opinion and consider it a Qualified Success.
At the risk of reopening old threads: I love the remastered sound; Many of the songs still are great, but I especially want to highlight the rooftop version of "Don't Let Me Down" and the stripped-down "Across the Universe"; I don't mind the re-sequence; I miss the chatter and goofy throwaways.
Definitely try and sample it first before buying. It may not be a replacement for the original album, but it's an interesting rethink.
It's certainly gained luster compared to Love.
01/26/07 @ 13:10
Comment from: meanstom [Member]
Is this thing ever going to move beyond las Vegas, or wherever it's playing? I'd like to see how it plays with the circus clowns dancing about.
01/28/07 @ 14:23
Comment from: hrrundivbakshi [Member] Email
We been hacked!
02/01/07 @ 14:22
Comment from: The Back Office [Member] Email
Ha! A milestone passed!

This poses an interesting quandry. I could easily put "viagra" as a no-no word and any posts or comments with the word would be forbidden. But given our subject matter, and the advancing age of some of our members, the term may be one that comes up now and again. Hmmmm....
02/01/07 @ 14:25

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