Comment from: sammymaudlin [Member]
This was cool. Thanks for the post. There's no shame by the way in owning some Floyd. I drive the family from LA to Phoenix twice a year and won't leave home without either Animals, Dark Side or Wish You Were Here to supply the desert drive soundtrack.

I saw the Momentary Lapse tour and missed Roger Waters for like 3 seconds. They only did two songs from Lapse and they broke out all their classic stadium toys for the rest. They opened with Interstellar Overdrive and kicked its ass. Gilmour was amazing and to this day it is the only stadium show that was truly built for a stadim audience that I've ever seen or enjoyed.

Go get the classics man. If you feel dirty afterwards you can rinse with Mad Cap Laughs.
2007-01-25 @ 10:28
Comment from: Mr. Moderator [Member]
Oats, we can't thank you enough for doing this work. The Rock Crimes of Waters have been swept under the rug for too long. Those videos were really bad, and memories of that Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking album cover got me thinking that the grooves have to be especially lame to wipe out any appeal that cover illustration might have had for a young man.

When does sentencing begin?
2007-01-25 @ 12:08
Comment from: hrrundivbakshi [Member] Email
Hey, Oats -- Good LORD, but that Waters stuff sucks major ass! I'd never actually listened to it before (never really being a Floyd head, I never really had a reason to), but... well, I just wanted to say that you're right; it's every bit as awful as you say it is.

Here's a question for you and others, though: is the Blue Nile any better?

FS
2007-01-25 @ 16:47
Comment from: the great 48 [Member] Email
Fritz:

I think I speak for many of us when I say...huh?
2007-01-25 @ 18:14
Comment from: Oats [Member]
Thank you all,
Mr. Mod, I'm afraid to even bother with sentencing, since that will involve dressing up like a worm or some such nonsense (a little Wall humor for you all).
And Fritz, if you're feeling brave, look for RW's What God Wants video. Jeff Beck plays guitar, but it blows all the same.
'Fraid I don't know enough about The Blue Nile to help you, though. But I thought they were just sleepy. Did they complain as much as he did?
2007-01-25 @ 21:44
Comment from: BigSteve [Member] Email
You mean the Scottish band The Blue Nile? Roger Waters' songs might be almost tolerable if he were as good a singer as The Blue Nile's Paul Buchanan.
2007-01-25 @ 23:09
Comment from: hrrundivbakshi [Member] Email
Just to explain: I find both solo Roger Waters and all the Blue Nile I've ever heard to be uncommonly dreary, depressing, tuneless and not worth my time. And I *tried* to like the Blue Nile! That band falls under the "are you kidding me?!" category, as far as I'm concerned. I suppose there's probably something Deep and Important I'm missing. It all just seems like Rush for Mensa members to me.
2007-01-26 @ 10:05
Comment from: the great 48 [Member] Email
Just to explain: I find both solo Roger Waters and all the Blue Nile I've ever heard to be uncommonly dreary, depressing, tuneless and not worth my time. And I *tried* to like the Blue Nile! That band falls under the "are you kidding me?!" category, as far as I'm concerned. I suppose there's probably something Deep and Important I'm missing. It all just seems like Rush for Mensa members to me.


Ah. It just seems an odd comparison to make.

I don't actually find the Blue Nile all that Deep and Important. They're more along the lines of a slightly artiser version of Prefab Sprout or Lloyd Cole and the Commotions in my eyes, and I don't much like them beyond their first album, and even then I like side one a lot more than side two.

Backstory alert: The Blue Nile's first album made a lot more sense to me after I learned that it was first recorded not as an album, but as a demo for a digital recording system. Among other things, this explains the exploded arrangements, where it's rare for all of the instruments in a song to be playing at the same time and there's a much greater than average use of silence.

Not that this would make you any more likely to enjoy the album...in fact, I would be hard pressed to imagine an album you're less likely to enjoy. But that doesn't mean you need to compare it to Roger Waters.
2007-01-26 @ 10:25
Stewart, I think you need to check out The Blue Nile's 2004 album High. It came and went largely unnoticed, but I swear up and down that it's their best album (even better than A Walk Through the Rooftops). Your Prefab Sprout comparison is pretty spot-on. I would also list Aztec Camera and The Trashcan Sinatras as similar artists, though neither rely on electronics nearly as much as Paul Buchanan does. Incidentally, this reminds me of how bummed I am that they cancelled their upcoming U.S. tour (I had a ticket for the World Cafe Live show, too).
2007-01-26 @ 16:42
Comment from: saturnismine [Member] Email
i agree that waters has sucked ass for a long time, but who cares? it's not as if everyone's been running around claiming his solo career is awesome, is it? and i found that that gilmour clip even sadder than the waters video. what could be more indicative of the guy's lack of creativity or stimulating new material than an acoustic version of "shine on"?
2007-01-27 @ 07:41

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