Comment from: the great 48 [Member] Email
So what's your bitch about the Outkast soundtrack, anyway? You sure do seem to think it sucks, considering I'm pretty sure you haven't actually heard it...
01/30/07 @ 01:33
Comment from: Mr. Moderator [Member]
Hey man, what I wrote is merely a reflection of what I see and hear around me. I was passing no judgement, merely holding a mirror up to society.

How is that recent Outkast album? You're right, I've never heard more than 4 opening measures of a song from it. Is it better than people think?

Anyone seen Andre 3000's kids' cartoon? It's pretty good. It sends out a good message about the value of being creative and getting along.
01/30/07 @ 09:38
Comment from: dbuskirk [Member] Email
It is odd when you have to defend yourself for not adopting a new technology, I swear, you can be excited about all sorts of music even if they it is not being heard through your ear-buds, Bud.

As for walking around inside your own private Miles Davis concert, I really do like to leave open the possibilty of engagement when I go out for a stroll as well as leaving open the possibility I might hear somebody else's good taste in music. The I-Pod is selling a whole new way to listen to music and maybe this is great for those who have been too busy conquering the world to throw on the last couple Johnny Cash CDs. Me, I've always kept a steady date with my hi-fi and I've always been on speaking terms with the clerks at the music emporium. I don't need to be born again.

-db
np Woody Shaw - BLACKSTONE LEGACY ('71)
01/30/07 @ 09:57
Comment from: Mr. Moderator [Member]
You are changing the world, DJ DB! Keep up the good work. Let freeform ring.
01/30/07 @ 10:01
Comment from: markwallace1322 [Visitor]
I love the defenses on the list from the folks who want to walk around with their ear-buds on. I can just picture it; what a bunch of losers. Bet they're the kind who sometimes even walk around with phone headsets for work. Still, don't think what I'm saying means I don't appreciate the fact that, as Ian Hunter said, "Rock 'n roll's a loser's game."
01/30/07 @ 11:17
Comment from: Mr. Moderator [Member]
I love the defenses on the list from the folks who want to walk around with their ear-buds on. I can just picture it; what a bunch of losers. Bet they're the kind who sometimes even walk around with phone headsets for work. Still, don't think what I'm saying means I don't appreciate the fact that, as Ian Hunter said, "Rock 'n roll's a loser's game."


I wonder if they can even hear us, Mark. Come on, cokeheads headphones defendants. Do you I need to explain myself any longer regarding this iPod issue?
01/30/07 @ 11:56
Comment from: the great 48 [Member] Email
How is that recent Outkast album? You're right, I've never heard more than 4 opening measures of a song from it. Is it better than people think?


Not really. It's a soundtrack to a movie nobody saw because it was in and out of theatres in a week, so the songs are advancing a plot no one knows. So basically, it's their version of Prince's PARADE. Like that album, there are definite high points, but there are also serious low points, including a fairly pointless extended guitar solo. I'm also growing kind of sick of the two of them not actually working together.

So basically, it's easily their weakest album but it has its moments.
01/30/07 @ 13:25
Comment from: hrrundivbakshi [Member] Email
Mark/Jim: these "headphone" posts of yours are Very Sad Things. Just thought you ought to know.
01/30/07 @ 15:40
Comment from: Mr. Moderator [Member]
Mark/Jim: these "headphone" posts of yours are Very Sad Things. Just thought you ought to know.


Fritz, you owe it to us - you owe it to teh Hall - to explain what you mean by this statement. I sense you're passing judgement on us. Tell us why.
01/30/07 @ 16:10
Comment from: hrrundivbakshi [Member] Email
You sense I'm being judgemental, huh?

I love the defenses on the list from the folks who insist on walking around without ear-buds on. I can just picture it; what a bunch of losers. Bet they're the kind who insist on being tethered to their desk phones. Still, don't think what I'm saying means I don't appreciate the fact that, as Ian Hunter said, "Rock 'n roll's a loser's game."
01/30/07 @ 17:06
Comment from: BigSteve [Member] Email
I only have a nano. I've 240+ gigabytes on my harddrive, so even the biggest ipod doesn't let me take my whole collection around with me. I wear mine mostly at the gym and mostly for self-protection against the 'top 5 hits in the top 5 genres' service they pipe in there. It does make it a bit more difficult to interact with people there, but I have to do it maintain my sanity. I've gotta say too that I've been unpleasantly surprised by how often it needs charging.

I have fond memories of wearing mine as I walked around Chicago and DC on visits, but not being able to hear what's going on around me is a bit dangerous. I find I'm more likely to bump into people inadvertantly, and I have to be extra careful crossing the street.

I also have misgivings about carrying around a small device costing (I think) $250 that is very easy to misplace or get stolen. But unlike Jim I do not miss the days when people 'shared' their musical taste with me via boomboxes. Passing cars are bad enough.
01/30/07 @ 18:11
Comment from: general slocum [Member] Email
Yes, Mr. Moderator. One denture-rattling gripe at a time, please. The post is about headphones, isn't it? Is it also about various CDs you don't like? And how you wish people would share these CDs with you more by shedding their headphones? And how iPods just suck? I use heapdphones primarily when people nearby are sleeping. Otherwise, I carry around my 60GB of fun for speaker use - in the car, upstairs and downstairs at home - and it's better than a Walkman, by about, well, 59GB or so. So let's have the gripe about headphones on its own terms, and then get into why it's the iPod (this time) that's causing the iDeath of Rock and Roll. As for your friends' tediousness explaining the synchronicity their iPod has masterminded in its shuffling, is it any more tedious than hearing them explain their own brilliance in juxtaposing Joy Division and Spill the Wine on a mix tape? That is a matter of genuinely boring humans, friend. (And yes, I own a mirror, thank you.) I heart my iPod. I still buy lps and CDs. This only makes me a better man than you in a technical sort of way. But keep jogging, old man. You said when you got all these grey hairs over the next hill into bloggsburg, there'd be pudding and Barney Miller. Deliver!
01/30/07 @ 19:36
Comment from: Mr. Moderator [Member]
General Slocum,

You've hit me with low blows on multiple levels. I think it's hypocritical of you to take this approach. You want to hold me to my views on headphones, then I suggest you counter with nothing but attackss on my views on headphones!

I will say that the juxtapositions of a successful mix tape are intentional, not the result of master marketing schemes masquerading as coincidence!
01/30/07 @ 19:49
Comment from: BigSteve [Member] Email
Jim says:
It used to be, when faced with the faraway eyes of an iProselyte, I'd go on some rant about how I didn't want to be beholden to the Apple Empire, dammit! That never quite cut it.


I'm not sure why this "doesn't cut it." The fact that the playback device is basically just part of a scheme to control the recorded music market sucks big time. DRM, the proprietary software, locking the ipod to a single workstation -- all of this is reason enough to fight the Apple Empire. Even though I gave in, I can support anyone who fights the good fight.

01/30/07 @ 20:15
Comment from: Mr. Moderator [Member]
Where were you when I needed you for agreement in the first place? In the future, I know where to turn.
01/30/07 @ 20:40
Comment from: sally_cinnamon [Member] Email
Ahem. I'm a bit late to the party, and you are all cracking me up - great post Mr. Mod! But seriously, I still own a walkman, and make mix tapes regularly, although friends refuse them as gifts now saying that they'd rather convert the cassettes to mp3 files and upload them to their iPods so they can iTune into them into their iCars... and it kinda hurts. I use it because I can't afford an iPod, and also because my Sony walkman (it only takes one AA and cost me $1 on sale at FYE - seriously!) has a continuous turnover from side A to side B aaand I have wicked mix tape collection that lives in the past and present. There's nothing like a 45 minute block of music and then a break. I actually had to break down and buy a cellphone with internet capability (Paris has her Tinkerbell, I have my BlackBerry) that allows me to use it for an mp3 player (coincidentally only) because when I first moved to Philly, I was living in the west side (deep west) and the only internet that I could access were in a few cafes and the library with limited time and censored sites - and no I'm not talking censored porn, I'm talking myspace. I love headphones, but I hate earbuds. I can however appreciate some awesome headphones (outside only please - I have sensitive ears!) as long as they don't block out traffic or my surroundings, because knowing my luck - I would - get robbed. Shoot.
01/30/07 @ 21:52
Comment from: general slocum [Member] Email
Hey, Mr. Mod. I am free to respond to your entire post, even if one of my critiques is that the post is rambling or incoherent. So if you can't eat four courses, only order one!
As far as iPods being tools of The Man, and making you listen to certain music and not other music, I say Huh? You yourself got my crackly Moby Grape pick, lovingly ripped from vinyl onto mp3, and even the Kenny Roberts yodelling masterpiece, from an old 78 ripped by Mike Ace and snail-mailed to me, didn't you? Here's the big secret about the iPod: you can put whateve the hell you want on it. I do. The beauty of the information age (and it took me a while to see any beauty) is that there's way too much of it. Just try doing a google search for the band The The. Tee hee. No one company can control it all, though Waner has tried for decades... Jump on in, the water's fine! Viva la difference, man.
01/31/07 @ 08:19
Comment from: general slocum [Member] Email
That's *Warner*. Warner. Not Waner. Sorry.
01/31/07 @ 08:20
Comment from: Mr. Moderator [Member]
general slocum wrote:
Hey, Mr. Mod. I am free to respond to your entire post, even if one of my critiques is that the post is rambling or incoherent.


You're missing my larger point about pot vs coke culture. Had you received the dutchie when passed, my overall post would have read much more concisely and coherently.
01/31/07 @ 08:51
Comment from: kiddka [Member] Email
I love my iPod. I was late to the party too, not picking one up until last summer. I rarely use the shuffle feature, but I agree with Mr. Mod that when it's magical it's a "you had to be there" moment.

I like my iPod for the simple fact that I can load the 3 or 4 new CDs I just picked up onto it, and I can rotate through them easily without having to carry around the actual CDs, etc.

BTW....LOVING the new site Mr. Mod!!!!! My work blocks the RTH e-mails, and I rarely have the time at night or after work to respond/reply. Having the site will make it MUCH EASIER for this town folk to participate in the discussions from now on.
01/31/07 @ 12:35

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