Comment from: geo [Member] Email
You are a friggin' sick pup.
06/18/07 @ 22:18
Comment from: Mr. Moderator [Member]
Hey, I'm only illin' for your rock infection.
06/18/07 @ 22:20
Comment from: epluribusgergely [Member] Email
Moderator,

I've examined the performance, but the actual calculating is somewhat difficult. Please provide a mathematical formula of sorts to asseess the gathered statistics.

Hope to hear from you soon,
E. Pluribus
06/19/07 @ 10:31
Comment from: BigSteve [Member] Email
I didn't do the whole homework assignment exactly as laid out, but I'll jump in because no one seems to be going for this topic.

I really didn't see all that much facial interplay between the guitarists. Clapton pretty much keeps his head down and plays, and Robertson just seems high as a kite. He's really not this kind of 'cutting contest' guitar player who can rip off a searing solo against blues changes.

The worst facial moment comes around 3:57 when Robbie's face tries to mimic the repetitive riff he's playing, and it's just not as great as his face wants us to believe it is. He's only taking the solo there because Eric's strap came loose after all, but he's over-reaching. Clapton also gives some kind of inscrutable smile at around 2:11 when Robbie is tries to jack things up by playing high up on the neck. I think he’s being kind, because he knows he’s going to clean up later.

It's interesting to me that Clapton admired The Band so much he actually had tried to join the group a few years earlier, but here he's the one getting all the love from the band members. Levon seems completely happy to demonstrate his skill at playing a simple shuffle, which is much harder than it looks. Clapton just plays it cool in a mandom kind of way.

Clapton also takes a while to get into his soloing. He's always criticized for being too controlled, but whenever I see him in this kind of blues setting, he always seems to be trying to find a way into the song, rather than just trotting out a preconceived notion of the proper solo for that particular song. Towards the end he does kind of reach into his bag of tricks for some stuff he knows is going work, but in fact he does pretty much save the number from itself.
06/19/07 @ 10:56
Comment from: Mr. Moderator [Member]
BigSteve wrote:
The worst facial moment comes around 3:57 when Robbie's face tries to mimic the repetitive riff he's playing, and it's just not as great as his face wants us to believe it is.

That is a telling moment. With the sound off, that might be the best solo Roberston plays during the song.

You've also nailed that smile by Clapton and described what was coming perfectly.

Nice work, my man! When I've got the time, I'll do my own analysis. Maybe late tonight. Busy day for me, today.
06/19/07 @ 11:38
Comment from: hrrundivbakshi [Member] Email
I'm afraid your rules are just a wee bit too complicated for a non-baseball fantasy leaguer like me. Nevertheless, I do have a few impressions, which I'll share momentarily.
06/19/07 @ 15:31
Comment from: hrrundivbakshi [Member] Email
The other night, in a fit of boredom, I headed over to a local bar that features a "blues jam" every Sunday. These are usually pretty dreadful affairs, but the camaraderie is sincere, in a late-40s/early 50s kind of way. (That's as in age of participants, by the way.)

Anyhow, there's thankfully little of the "cutting session" vibe on display, normally. Not that I'm afraid of a little action -- I can hold my own against most blooz pickers, believe it or not. Anyhow, I got real lucky and was paired up with this somewhat smelly, Bob Hite-looking fellow who came up on stage with an old Mosrite guitar. Now, in garage punk circles, this would be a big ho-hum, but to drag such a thing on stage at a white guy blooz jam shows promise, or an eccentric disregard for the conventional, or in this greasy-haired guy's case, both. And he could play! I mean, play *right* -- jumping in tastefully, being cool, etc. We really played quite well together, and I was pleased in general, as was the crowd.

Anyhow, there was this dude in the crowd, up next, who I swear to god looked just like Wolfman Jack, who took the stage with his drummer and bassist buddies. This is bad form to begin with, as it suggests that the house band ain't good enough for you. This image problem was compounded by the fact that he plugged in a purple-flame top Paul Reed Smith with blahdeblahdeblah active electronic jizz-wah switching and such.

He counted off, and tore into some quick blooz shuffle of some sort. Now, make no mistake, the guy could play -- but he wouldn't shut the fuck up! It was all "11," all 180 mph, all the time, and after about 20 seconds of this "I'm going to show this room full of fat old geezers what's what," folks started to walk out of the room. Problem: DICKHEAD.

And that's my problem with Robbie Robertson on this clip. He's just a dickhead! You invite Eric Clapton on stage to *your* "farewell concert" (the very notion of which is pretty oogie to me), then try to cut him by going tweedly-tweedly-tweedly as fast as you can? Wearing a SCARF?! (Don't think those things aren't connected, by the way. Scarves are for wearing *outdoors*, to keep your neck warm. Period.) And then you've got the avocado-sized balls to give Clapton the "pretty hot, huh -- top that" look? I don't think so, buddy!

Not that Capton doesn't give as good as he gets in the cheeseball grandstanding department. And extra demerits to the idiots in the audience who leap about and wave their arms like Rajneeshees on ecstasy when Clapton goes "twee-twee-tweeee-tweeeeeee" over and over again. Ugh!

Anyhow, those are my thoughts. Sorry I had to eschew the incomprehensible scoring system. Bottom line: they're both losers, but Robertson is a dickhead loser to boot.

06/19/07 @ 15:55
Comment from: epluribusgergely [Member] Email
Bravo, Hrundi!

Indoor scarves always bothered/bother me. Particularly upsetting was when Lennon chose to wear one during the mid to late 70s.

Talk to ya soon,
E. Pluribus
06/19/07 @ 18:08
Comment from: Mr. Moderator [Member]
For those of you interested, I've added my official score to the second half of this post. Thanks.
06/19/07 @ 23:30
Comment from: epluribusgergely [Member] Email
That was more or less my conclusion as well.

E. Pluribus
06/20/07 @ 06:42
Comment from: hrrundivbakshi [Member] Email
Mr. Mod:

Despite the fact that this may in fact be the single time-wasting-est post you've ever been responsible for... it may also be your proudest achievement as an RTH contributor. At every level -- from demented concept to hilarious resolution -- your contribution is wonderful. Mind you, as its genius propagates throughout the Web, I wonder how many idiotic EC/RR fan sites will take it, um, seriously.
06/20/07 @ 07:38
Comment from: hrrundivbakshi [Member] Email
I've been trying to get a particular Nashville rocker, scenester, and all-around cool guy, who shall go nameless for now (but whose blog/podcast for the local undergroundy paper can be found at http://www.nashvillescene.com/Stories/Arts/Music/SceneCast/index.shtml), to join RTH, to no avail. But we maintain an active "offlist" dialog about things that frequently deal in matters RTH-ian. I sent him Mr. Mod's Face/Lead/Look/Whatever screed, and here was his insightful response:

Prince at the RnR HOF doing "While My Guitar..." would win this game, hands down every time.

People love this movie, and there are some magical moments, "It Makes No Difference" and "Baby, Don't Do It" are great but NEIL DIAMOND (who I happen to love in context), amongst others, just sucks.

...and Robbie Robertson, just for the record, is a modestly talented ass.
06/20/07 @ 09:01
Comment from: Mr. Moderator [Member]
Nice work, Hrrundi. Keep us on this dude's radar. There will come a time when he realizes he needs our understanding and compassion. His point about Prince playing "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" is a great example of prime Licks, Faces, Feel skills.
06/20/07 @ 09:27
Comment from: BigSteve [Member] Email
Embedded youtubes on this site always count backwards, from total time down to zero, rather than forward for me (I use Firefox Mozilla). This makes it hard to compare notes.
06/20/07 @ 09:53
Comment from: Mr. Moderator [Member]
You're right, Steve. When I viewed it at home, directly through YouTube on my Mac with Firefox Mozilla, it ran from zero up. Here, on my PC in work, through IE, it goes in reverse. Don't give up regardless. I'm sure your big picture comments, if they're as good as your initial comments, will be illuminating.
06/20/07 @ 10:04
Comment from: meanstom [Member]
Mod, you undervalue Clapton's opening faces. As the clock winds down from 4:24 to 4:23, he nods his head approvingly along to a tasty little run. Form and function are working jointly from the beginning of Clapton's performance. Otherwise, I agree with most of your analysis.
06/21/07 @ 12:48
Comment from: Rick Massimo [Member] Email
Mr. Mod, this is, indeed, your finest hour. I have always been a fan (and an occasional exponent) of objective, statistical and forensic analysis of music, and you’ve done brilliantly here. I really have nothing to add in terms of scoring.

I will, however, point out that Clapton loses points in my book for bad guitar strap/clothes coordination. If you don’t care about that stuff, go with a black strap!

Poor Danko. He looks like he never recovered from catching sight of Robertson about to go on with that scarf: "You’re really going to wear that out there?" "Yeah!" At every moment he’s on camera, Danko appears to be thinking some combination of "I can’t fucking believe I spent almost 20 years in a band with a guy who is now wearing a salmon-colored scarf onstage" and "Must not look at scarf ... will bust out laughing if I look at scarf!"

Oh yeh one other thing: Hey Hrrundi, what kind of paradise do you live in? You can get listenable singles for a quarter and people actually go out to hear blues jamz? Damn!
06/22/07 @ 11:34

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