Two Hits...Two Eras...Essentially One Artist...Almost Nothing in Common!
By Mr. Moderator on Nov 12, 2007
Manfred Mann led bands in two eras and experienced the thrill of a big hit song in each era. His early big hit was this one.
I hear you rustling through your dog-eared copies of the Billboard Top 40 book, nerdboys: a few smaller '60s hits, including his cover of Bob Dylan's "The Mighty Quinn", should also be considered from this era. I'm not calling the guy a 1-hit wonder through the '60s.
Then the '60s ended, and Manfred Mann fell out of most rock music circles until he came back with his Earth Band and this cover of an album cut by a "new Dylan":
Has any other artist had two hits from two different eras that had so little in common?
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The Bee Gees would be good if they didn't have a dozen hits in each era and style.They had built enough of a career to justify developing from one style to another and dragging an audience into each stage. Manfred Mann...who remembered him after his first big hit and who saw that second big hit coming?
Slightly unrelated, but I really hate Manfred Mann's "Blinded By the Light." It seems to go on forever.
Oats, I didn't say they had to be memorable, but I implied it by citing the nerds who'd be furiously paging through their Billboard Top 40 books. You know the type I'm talking about.
And Yes, I do believe the skiffle/rockabilly hits he had with The Shadows are different than the 70's soft rock hits he had.
In the '90s: "Song 2" (Blur)
In the '00s: "Feel Good, Inc." (Gorillaz)
Who's still paging through that Billboard book?
Albarn's contributions are on the right track, but he flowed directly from Blur to his offshoot Gorillaz. It's not like he fell off the face of the earth for 7 years and then struck gold with a hit song that had nothing to do with his initial blast of success.
I accept this exception. I've got one more up my sleeve, inspired by last week's Dugout Chatter. Golden Earring: "Radar Love" (pro forma boogie) in the '70s, "Twilight Zone" (pro forma sci-fi-rock) in the '80s.
GOLDEN EARRING, "Twilight Zone"
Somewhere in a lonely hotel room
there's a guy starting to realize
That eternal fate has turned it's back on him
It's two a.m.
It's two a.m. the fear has gone
I'm sitting here waitin' the gun still warm
Maybe my connection is tired of taken chances
Yeah there's a storm on the loose sirens in my head
I'm wrapped up in silence all circuits are dead
I cannot decode
my whole life spins into a frenzy
Help I'm steppin' into the twilight zone
The place is a madhouse
Feels like being cloned
My beacon's been moved under moon and star
Where am I to go
Now that I've gone too far
Help I'm steppin' into the twilight zone
The place is a madhouse
Feels like being cloned
My beacon's been moved under moon and star
Where am I to go
Now that I've gone too far
Soon you will come to know
When the bullet hits the bone
Soon you will come to know
When the bullet hits the bone
I'm falling down a spiral
destination unknown
A double crossed Messenger
all alone
I can't get no connection
I can't get through
Where are you
Well the night weighs heavy on his guilty mind
This far from the borderline
And when the hitman comes
He knows damn well he has been cheated
And he says
Help I'm steppin' into the twilight zone
the place is a madhouse
Feels like being cloned
My beacon's been moved under moon and star
Where am I to go
Now that I've gone too far
Help I'm steppin' into the twilight zone
The place is a madhouse
Feels like being cloned
My beacon's been moved under moon and star
Where am I to go
Now that I've gone too far
Soon you will come to know
When the bullet hits the bone
Soon you will come to know
When the bullet hits the bone
When the bullet hits the bone
(Musical interlude)
Help I'm steppin' into the twilight zone
The place is a madhouse
Feels like being cloned
My beacon's been moved under moon and star
Where am I to go
Now that I've gone too far
Help I'm steppin' into the twilight zone
The place is a madhouse
Feels like being cloned
My beacon's been moved under moon and star
Where am I to go
Now that I've gone too far
Soon you will come to know
When the bullet hits the bone
Soon you will come to know
When the bullet hits the bone
Soon you will come to know
When the bullet hits the bone
Soon you will come to know
When the bullet hits the bone
When the bullet hits the bone
When the bullet hits the bone
When the bullet hits the bone
When the bullet hits the bone
When the bullet hits the bone
When the bullet hits the bone
When the bullet hits the bone
When the bullet hits the bone
how about Rod Argent's successes with the Zombies compared to the 70s prog of his "hold your head up" song?
there's also the Floyd: "Arnold Layne" versus "Another Brick in the Wall".
and how about Smokey Robinson's early Motown vs. his smooth single "Bein' with You"?
neil young: "heart of gold" versus "hey hey my my"? if there's a perceived continuity there, it's because we know so much more about neil, and he has "sold" us his changes better.
i don't know that any of them are as cleanly disparate as your example, mr. mod. but they're worth mentioning in this vein.
Herbie Hancock: "Watermelon Man" and "Rockit."
Whether "Watermelon Man" was a Billboard Top 40 hit or not, he's spot on! We'll even leave alone the continuity thing, because Herbie was a jazz artist, which ensures a high degree of invisibility. Nice work, my man.
what about bobby darin? I immediately thought of the near do-wop of "mac the knife" versus his later folk stuff.
Hits or just laughable misses in the latter category? I don't recall hits.
how about Rod Argent's successes with the Zombies compared to the 70s prog of his "hold your head up" song?
I thought about him, but he wasn't the band leader in The Zombies, despite being a key member. Close but no cigar!
there's also the Floyd: "Arnold Layne" versus "Another Brick in the Wall".
Way too much continuity. In fact, Pink Floyd did nothing but write songs about Syd Barrett. Chances are they would have been pretty much the same Pink Floyd had Syd stayed healthy and in the driver's seat.
and how about Smokey Robinson's early Motown vs. his smooth single "Bein' with You"?
Nah, he'd done tons of similar ballads and had a long string of hits leading up to a brief fallow period.
neil young: "heart of gold" versus "hey hey my my"? if there's a perceived continuity there, it's because we know so much more about neil, and he has "sold" us his changes better.
He'd already recorded dozens of songs in the vein of "Heart of Gold" - including an entire album, After the Goldrush, right? Nope.
i don't know that any of them are as cleanly disparate as your example, mr. mod. but they're worth mentioning in this vein.
Definitely.
Joe Cocker: "With a Little Help From My Friends" and "Up Where We Belong."
Should have quite while you were ahead, my man... There's a little matter of that giagantic mid-70s hit, a soft-rock ballad that I'm suddenly blanking on - something like "Three Times a Lady" crossed with "Wonderful Tonight". Help me, somebody. "You Are So Beautiful"! Definitely a transitional shapes of things to come hit that spoils your nomination. I stll love you, though. You too, Andyr and Great One.
Rick DerringerSolo-Rock and Roll Hootchie Coo
his "Babyface" collabs.
...Followed by a loser Sigh... Clapton's also gone through the transitional wimp-rock route mentioned in my shootdown of Cocker.
We'll remember our best answers. Keep 'em comin'!
darin's "if i were a carpenter" was a smash. and i don't think he earned much chart action after "knife", though i could be wrong.
but argent was definitely one of the leaders of the Zombies, right?
he had a number one with heart of gold, and then fell into a chartless five or six album abyss, only to re-emerge with a very different sound in '78.
the band that did "vehicle" in the 70s, the Ides of March, had a minor garage sounding hit with a song called "roller coaster" in the 60s, which wound up on a pebbles volume. very different sounds, and nothing to speak of in between.
finally, michael bolton had a video (which I cannot find on youtube) in regular rotation on mtv that showcased him as a guitar slinging heavy rocker. he then disappeared for *quite* awhile, only to reemerge in the 90s with his hit cover songs.
again, these aren't exactly like the manfred mann example, but it's a fun topic to think about.
How about it?
Saturnismine asks:
oh, and what does neil's output before "heart of gold" have to do with anything?
EVERYTHING: "Heart of Gold" - musically - was not much different than a dozen or more songs he'd already released, just happened to be a hit. There was always that "two sides of Neil" thing in action.
I DO appreciate your tenacity, Sat!
Maybe Ted Nugent, if he gets credit for the Amboy Dukes and Damn Yankees. Journey To The Center of Your Mind was about eight years before Stranglehold, and then there's ten years between Wango Tango and High Enough.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSZHT2XvoLM
'Big Love' (1987 - UK#6)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxfg_qe5J_E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF0OjrFIVWY
"Peek-A-Boo" (1988, UK #16)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PjUY8IXvnA
or:
Susie (yeah, I know - I can't spell that name she uses) & the Banshees had also been making that move along with The Cure from proto-whiney '80s music to actual whiney '80s music, no? Had she disappeared in-between these hits, though, this would have been in the running.
The Osmonds, from "Go Away Little Girl" to "Crazy Horses"!
I'm sensing a little hostility, Townspeeps. What gives?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CN-5-_2xJJI
The Eagle (Remember him? He remembers.) keeps strict tabs on the allowances made for '70s rock mediocrity on this blog!
As for being deaf to Blinded By The Light, I think as kids, we may have given it more credit than it deserved because it always sounded like they were singing "douche" instead of deuce, which is one of those naughty words that your mom doesn't like to hear. Plus there was still a bit of mystery as to why that word was somehow worse than, say tampon. Later, waiting for the the "who the fuck are you" in Who Are You would make those days seem truly innocent.
Guess Who
Exile
Climax Blues Band
ELP
Argent
BTO
Supertramp(might be aunt rock)
Firefall
Foriegner
Ambrosia
America
Bread
Christopher Cross
Player
And so do you. It's the egg that holds our classic rock burger together. It cant all be Zepp, and Stones, and sirloin.
Mockcarr, you may be interested to know that twenty-some years after this song's release, when it still held its grip on AOR radio, teenagers continued to marvel over the "douche/deuce" duality.
a hit, followed by an absence, followed by a hit of a different stripe.
if you say something in your original post about what the artist does BEFORE that first hit, i must it.
and suddenly, mystifyingly, neil's output before "heart of gold" is cited as a reason for disqualifying him (your explanation simply re-states this what you said the first time, without really really explaining further).
me no understand.
nor do i really care.
at first i thought the others who claimed, early in the thread, that you were shifting the rules and making them up as we went along were just a coupla babies. but there may be some credence to their claims.
kilroy, i don't like the bands you list. i supplement my love of the beatles / stones / zep, etc. not with those acts you name but with punk rock, etc....
regarding the mann version of "blinded by the light", there was a two month period when that song came out when i was inundated by it. everytime we got in the car, there it was. yuck. i find nothing more annoying than that opening organ riff.
it was a wordy, annoying song to begin with, written by a geek who was mastering the art of writing songs out of his fantasies of partying with the badass in-crowd. but at least the springsteen version sounds like a *real* band playing rather than a coke-addled 70s studio budget piece run amok.
regarding the mann version of "blinded by the light", there was a two month period when that song came out when i was inundated by it. everytime we got in the car, there it was. yuck. i find nothing more annoying than that opening organ riff.
I knew I could count on you, Saturn! Some smooth chords on the car radio, eh?
i supplement my love of the beatles / stones / zep, etc. not with those acts you name but with punk rock, etc....
I say:
What the fuck is etc?
Am I to take that literally?
Like "and Cetera"
Solo or with Chicago?
i'm fond of writing "what does this mean?" next to "etc." when my students use it, so there's no wriggling out of this for me!
but i can't possibly list all the bands i like *instead* of the ones you name.
are you suggesting that liking zep, the stones, the who, and the beatles, NECESSARILY means i have to start liking those shitty bands on your list?
i'd much rather listen to the velvets, the fall, joy division, the sex pistols, the clash, the jam, the ramones, the ny dolls, the buzzcocks, on up into the 80s, with hüsker dü, dino jr., sonic youth....et fucking cetera.
you get the idea now, right?
I actually hate the rhyming in Blinded By the Light – early pearly curly wurly go-kart mozart…yeah.
kilroy, i don't like the bands you list. i supplement my love of the beatles / stones / zep, etc. not with those acts you name but with punk rock, etc....
That's funny, I supplement my love of punk, garage and weird, kinda twangy country punk with the few classic rock acts I can still stand. I always thought Chicago, Boston and The Doobie Brothers were the Nickelback's, Coldplay's, and Dave Matthews Bands of the 70's.
Then again, I'm a snob.
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