Battle Royale: On Canada Day, Rock Town Hall Asks, "Who is the most Canadian of Canadian rock 'n rollers?"
By Mr. Moderator on Jul 1, 2009
To Townsman Northvan and other Townspeople north of the border, we wish you a happy Canada Day! Americans have long had a hard time figuring out who's Canadian in the entertainment world and other walks of life. Along these lines, I'd like to know the answer to the following question: Who is the most Canadian of Canadian rock 'n rollers?
Follow up:
The Band, love 'em or leave 'em, for instance, have no chance in this Battle Royale; they spent too much time doing Civil War re-enactments. Neil Young, who's also spent what seems to be an inordinate amount of time playing West Coast Hippie and Yankee, also seems to be a longshot, but what do I know? How about Sloan? Do their occasional British Invasion affectations detract from their Canadian-ness or strengthen it, as part of the country's preference for "UK" spellings?
My guess is this will come down to a Battle Royale between Rush and The Guess Who, but again, what do I know? What do I know about what it means to be Canadian let alone the most Canadian of Canadian rock 'n rollers?
For this special Canada Day edition Battle Royale, I'm calling on all Canadians to enter the Halls of Rock and help us identify the most Canadian of Canadian rock 'n rollers. Thank you.
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I think I would take RUSH over Bryan Adams in the battle, but I do really like the early BA singles and I do hate some of the RUSH stuff
....hmmmm.....
Triumph, on the other hand, is a strong contender! No one forgets that they're Canadian. They may be at least as Canadian as Rush.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_j7FUGV22I
They are the most "Canadian" band I've heard.
TB
That Dave Bidini guy gloms onto to every lefty-hipster-Canadiana-CBC stance he can and tries to attach it to his band.
The Rheostatics are pompous and unlistenable: 13 minutes of intolerable screeching, weird folk instruments and bad singing. Then they tell you the song is about a 19th Century shipwreck in Manitoba you should have hear of.
I could sit here and tell you The Guess Who, Neil, Rush, Bryan Adams even Corey Hart. But -and I have to say I wouldn't count myself as a fan- The Tragically Hip will be played by someone on an acoustic guitar at every campfire in Canada tonight. Of course, then someone will attempt to play Rush on an acoustic guitar and the party will be over.
Business in the front, party in the back,
HVB
TB
http://www.bustedtees.com/canadaamericashat
I don't know why I think that's funny, I just do. I really like Canada and Canadians quite a bit, though. We go there a few times a year because it's awesome.
I think the most Canadian band is Max Webster. Canada can keep them, too. I'll give a big thanks for Black Mountain and Ladyhawk, though. There's plenty more great bands in Canada right now, too.
Happy Canada Day!
I'll tell you who it isn't: the Band. And for that matter, it's not Blue Rodeo either.
The land of Rock!
Ok, does the fact that our supply of Canadian rockers is "wafer thin" say something?
We could do Memphis, Atlanta, New York, Chicago all day. Even FLORIDA...but big-ass Canada has what 8 contenders from the last 40 years?
And then there's this late '90s song I love, "C'mon C'mon" by an alt-rock-shading-into-metal band called Bionic. There are many ridiculous things about this song, but I love the hilariously foul-mouthed opening line. Plus, the melody's pretty sturdy in a Cheap Trick/power-pop kind of way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-f3tgroXFY
Barenaked Ladies was a good suggestion. They tap into Canada's rich comedy troupe tradition.
I don't know much about The Tragically Hip, but I'm willing to take Northvancoveman's lead on that answer.
The album version of the song, which has the "American Woman" prelude, doubles the goofiness. I love how he spells out the entire word "american" even though you know he must have been thinking half way through "holy geez, this is a longer word than I thought."
"I said Aaaaa...I say Mmmmmm-uh...I say Eeeeeee...oooooohh Rrrrr....I say Iiiiiii..."
I think, if you consider their mix of general rock politeness and latent hostility towards America, their Look (facial hair and style) and that sort of undefinable but innate "Canadianity" of their sound - like how you can instantly tell a movie or TV show is shot in Toronto despite being set in New York - it would be hard to argue against The Guess Who as the most Canadian rock band.
Still, Rush is right there. They exhibited same kind of genial politeness in their rocking out, their videos were practically dripping with Canadian production values and their music was ideal for both playing Dungeons & Dragons and collecting hockey cards. I would imagine there is no better song than, say, Limelight for gathering in a rec room to marvel at one of those Guy LaFluer cards where he's playing without a helmet. And Alex Lifeson did beat the hell out of some cops a few years ago, which gives Rush points for representing the Canadian desire to get into a good scrum now and again.
It may be too close to call.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6jwyMiilgE&feature=related
(Rush's) music was ideal for both playing Dungeons & Dragons and collecting hockey cards...
I say:
Now THAT's funny!
Now, if April Wine were in the poll...
(cdm, when you get a chance can you shoot me your e-mail address offlist. The one I have for you is not working.)
Nominee for Most Canadian Song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDVDqJ7o8LE
And for BTO TMI:
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/music/bto-faq/
Sample:
6. Who played piano on "Takin' Care Of Business"?
The piano was played by Norman Durkee, a pizza delivery person who
happened to walk in on the band while they were recording the song.
The pizza had actually been ordered by Steve Miller and War, who were
recording in an adjacent studio. While asking BTO if they knew who ordered
the pizza, Durkee heard the song, and suggested that it needed a piano.
BTO let him add a piano track, liked how it sounded, and decided to keep
it on the song.
[Info taken from the Randy Bachman Interview at http://wcmr.com/rcb.htm]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foFaaT7Hgzs
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JtmGo8rfAo
What's more Canadian than that?
RB: Here's Randy's version of the story. We were encased in the studio, and the pizza guy delivers our pizza. He hears us recording the song and says, "Hey, that needs piano!" Randy asks him if he can play. He does, and he goes into the studio and does one take. We think that's cool, pay for the pizza, give him a tip and he leaves. Then Randy realizes that we have to pay this guy for the session! Randy and the president of Mercury Records sit down with the yellow pages and phone every pizza parlor in Seattle until 4 in the morning asking if they had a pizza delivered to Casement Studios by a guy who can play piano.
Here's the real story...
We're in the studio recording "Taking Care of Business." In the next studio is a guy working with Steve Miller. He hears the song as he's walking back and forth getting coffee. He sticks his head in and says, "That needs piano! A real boogie-woogie piano would sound cool." Then he leaves. We're looking around for him, asking, "Where's that piano guy?" So Buzz Richmond, the engineer, tells us that he's working next door and he'll go get him. So he comes back, and asks us if we want piano on the song. He asks us how long the song is, and we tell him about five minutes. "Well," he says, "I only have six." He then picks up a pizza box, proceeds to write the chord progression on the cardboard box, puts it down on the piano, and plays it once. It sounds great. He then asks us to send him a check and he leaves us his card. The fellow's name is Norman Durkee. He's a musical director for Bette Midler and Barry Manilow. We credited him on the album.
We just did a album where we took live recordings that we mixed to sound like a studio album, replayed all the stuff and sang everything on there. I flew down to Seattle and contacted Norman and he played piano on this version of "Taking Care of Business" with the same workers, in the same studio where we originally recorded it in 1974. And, next door in the studio, at the same time, was Steve Miller! The studio manager was amazed. There's some synergy for ya - better story than the one about the pizza guy. I have to explain this to Norman because the Pizza Guy story is now famous legend and in Randy's book and DVD.
Here's some more of the truth. When Norman was starting out, he was doing the music and was the musical director for a stage show that was coming through Seattle at the Paramount, with an unknown, wonderful singer and actress named Bette Midler. They were rehearsing this Bob Dylan song called "I Shall Be Released". He starts playing, she starts singing the song, and all of a sudden she starts crying! He thinks to himself, "Oh fuck, I'm fired now." He stops playing, "I'm sorry Miss Midler, what's wrong?" And she says, "I've never heard emotion come out of a piano like that before! It's just making me so sad. Someone else is going to have to play for me onstage, because if you're playing for me, I'll be crying!" Norman replies, "Well, that may be good for the show!"
Two years later, she phones Norman and tells him, "I'm flying in with my piano player and the president of Atlantic Records. I need you to teach us 'I Shall Be Released' on piano."
They fly in. She puts down her piano player, "Norman! Teach this fag how to play!" It was Barry Manilow.
Here's some more Norman Durkee-style trivia for ya. When I was in school doing physics and calculus, the guy next to me sharing the same slide rule was Ted Bundy. Now isn't that a better story than the Pizza Guy story? The truth is, both of those stories together are much better than the story about some guy saying " I think can play that" and leaving.
Good Ted Bundy story, though. The craziest part? You and Ted Bundy actually know what a slide rule does.
http://www.newyorkwaste.com/nyw_main/music/markdark02.html
i remember my dad working the slide rule in the late '60s/early '70s (as well as mom's huge metal adding machine) but i entered junior high at the dawn of the pocket calculator era.
btw, a quick fact-check shows rob's bundy story is even sillier than the pizza guy tale. bundy was born in 1946 and went to high school in tacoma. rob bachman was born in 1953 and presumably grew up in winnepeg. you can trust those bachmans as far as you can throw 'em.
you can trust those bachmans as far as you can throw 'em.
I say:
Which ain't far!
I seem to recall a pretty okay power-poppish album being delivered by Randy Bachman's son. Am I remembering right? Whatever happened to that guy? And whatever happened to Owsley, for that matter? His debut album was pretty darn good, then... nothing, as far as I know.
I thought of a truly Canadian band the other day. I know they weren't real, but The Zit Remedy is burned into an entire generation of Canada's collective teenage memory. And Joey and Snake are still Joey and Snake, so far as I know.
I like the Pizza Delivery Guy story a lot. Other bands should start using that one to spruce up the story behind guest spots on their albums. "There we were, in the studio, working on 'For No One', when this pizza deliveryman called Alan pops his head in and says 'S'nice and all, but couldn't it use a stately, yet mournful french horn solo?' And I said to him 'Fair point, can you play the french horn, then?' and he says 'Hang on, let me head out to me car and fetch mine' and so he did, and Paul rather liked it. Ringo never did get his pizza, though."
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