You're a fool. Devo's 1st 4 albums and their earlier material make for fine listening without accompanying videos. There's very little "non-traditional" about the pop-song structures on Freedom of Choice and New Traditionalists, for example.

Also, Love You is a brilliant album. Don't get me started on that one.

I can't speak for Trans as I've never heard it. Also, it's unfair to compare Devo to that album as Neil recorded it partly because of his well-documented love for Devo.
03/30/07 @ 12:56
Comment from: KingEd [Member]
A "fool"? That's a little harsh, ain't it man? First of all, I was giving Devo props for making music that was good even if you didn't listen to it. Few can do that without crawling across the floor in a slinky dress to drink milk out of a cat's bowl.

Secondly, why shouldn't I get you started on discussing the brilliance of this Loe You album. Did this come out after Freedom of Choice? I lost track of Devo's actually releases around that time. Oh wait - duh! (maybe I am an idiot) - you're talking about that bad Beach Boys album, aren't you?

Finally, what could be more fair than comparing Devo to an album they inspired? Do me a favor, the day you get your hands on a copy of Trans, try turning down the sound and tell me if it sounds half as good as any Devo album with the sound turned all the way down.

I hope we're just having a misunderstanding, except for our differences of opinion over that Beach Boys album.
03/30/07 @ 13:15
A "fool"? That's a little harsh, ain't it man? First of all, I was giving Devo props for making music that was good even if you didn't listen to it. Few can do that without crawling across the floor in a slinky dress to drink milk out of a cat's bowl.


Sorry about that. It was indeed a bit harsh. I should've clarified that I didn't mean that in a personal way. Obviously it's your right to dislike or like anything you wish. But when I read your post, I had to just shrug my shoulders since it seemed to be backhanded praise. I mean, I have a friend who used to watch Stryper videos with the volume down in the record store he owned at a certain time of the afternoon just because they were so funny. You seem to be implying something similar with Devo and yeah, they're one of my favorite bands ever, so I can't help but to be a bit too sensitive. So again, sorry about that Ed.

Secondly, why shouldn't I get you started on discussing the brilliance of this Loe You album. Did this come out after Freedom of Choice? I lost track of Devo's actually releases around that time. Oh wait - duh! (maybe I am an idiot) - you're talking about that bad Beach Boys album, aren't you?


Love You came out in 1977 and Freedom of Choice came out in 1980 and yeah, I was referring to the Beach Boys album in question. It may be my favorite album of theirs. No, I'm not kidding. It's funny, ridiculously catchy and a perfect representation of Brian Wilson's admittedly stagnant mental state at that time. So yes, I like it partially because of its bizarreness, goofiness and what not, but it also has some really memorable straightforward ballads like "The Night was So Young". Then again, I'm also a huge Beach Boys nerd and I think it's one of those albums where you have to be into the artist in question to really "get it" if you know what I mean. Otherwise, I can understand why people would dislike it as the production values aren't nearly up to snuff with their better-regarded '60s stuff, for example.

I hope we're just having a misunderstanding, except for our differences of opinion over that Beach Boys album.


I hope so, too! I don't mean to offend here.
03/30/07 @ 13:31
Comment from: hrrundivbakshi [Member] Email
Mr. Mod: we need a full-on, 360-degree, collective gripe/praisefest/healing session on this controversial "Love You" album. And get The Accuser out of his f*cking basement to join in, will you? That guy is starting to scare me. Is it true he's stopped bathing?

03/30/07 @ 13:37
Comment from: Mr. Moderator [Member]
I don't know that I've ever heard that album. Do you own it digitally, Hrrundi or Matt? If so, contact me offlist, and I can direct you to a place that will store the tracks for me to upload here and have just that day. Meanwhile, I look forward to the healing process that Matt seems to have initiated with Ed. Let's stick together, lads.

As for The Accuser, I spoke to him the other day. I would be lying if I said he sent regards, but he was in fine spirits. I'm hopeful that he will one day rejoin our cause. Here's hoping that TastyBassLee gets back in the fold too!
03/30/07 @ 13:41
Comment from: KingEd [Member]
Ah, I wasn't really offended, Matt. Just wondering why you had to start out that way. Wait a sentence or two to call me a foolnext time, will ya? What I reacted to was thinking you thought I was dissing Devo. I like their music OK, but it's the whole package that makes them more than a new wave novelty act, in my opinion. I think The Back Office illustrated my views better than I did myself.
03/30/07 @ 14:03
Comment from: saturnismine [Member] Email
Ed you fool!!!

this is right...on...the friggin....money (so's the back office bit).

it made me pull out my copy of "are we not men" and stare at the cover while turning the sound down.

kidding...

i agree with you about their visual aspect. they were even more disturbing looking at the time than they appear now. and their image was the visual analog of their early sound.

i liked the first album so much better than the others, however. it shows how underrated they are as guitarists. they really went for something different on guitar when it was still a primary part of their sound. but as their records became slicker and the 70s turned into the 80s and the key-tar was invented, they forgot about some of the compelling ways that they challenged the limits of the six stringed instrument.

thanks for the reminder of devo's awesomeness....
03/30/07 @ 16:01
Comment from: BigSteve [Member] Email
i liked the first album so much better than the others, however. it shows how underrated they are as guitarists. they really went for something different on guitar when it was still a primary part of their sound. but as their records became slicker and the 70s turned into the 80s and the key-tar was invented, they forgot about some of the compelling ways that they challenged the limits of the six stringed instrument.
They also had a way of using weird time signatures or repetitions in odd (i.e., not divisible by 2) numbers that didn't give off a showoffy muso vibe. Instead the rhythms left the listener feeling off-balance and wondering 'is that smart or dumb?'
03/30/07 @ 16:16

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