{"id":2838,"date":"2010-07-28T17:59:30","date_gmt":"2010-07-28T21:59:30","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2012-06-25T20:56:34","modified_gmt":"2012-06-26T00:56:34","slug":"penny-rush-valladares-rock-n-roll-caterer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/penny-rush-valladares-rock-n-roll-caterer\/","title":{"rendered":"The Rock Town Hall Interview: Rock \u2018n Roll Caterer Penny Rush-Valladares, or <em>If You Gotta Serve Somebody, Why Not Serve Bob Dylan Banana Pudding?<\/em>"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"image_block\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/media\/blogs\/rth\/rockandrollgirl_1_1_3.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/media\/blogs\/rth\/rockandrollgirl_1_1_3.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"490\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"image_legend\">The Rock &#8216;n Roll Caterer takes five, in 1985!<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><em>Years ago, when my wife and I were first dating, we ran into one of my old musician friends on a street corner. His long hair and slacker <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Shaggy_Rogers\" target=\"_blank\">Shaggy Rogers<\/a> facade hid the fact that he was a gentle, thoughtful guy whose only vice was sweets. After continuing on our way, she said something like, &#8220;Band members have this reputation for being tough and cool, but whenever I meet them they&#8217;re usually the nicest people in the club.&#8221; From 1978 through the 1980s, <strong>Penny Rush-Valladares<\/strong> interacted with rock stars galore while running <strong>Backstage Cafe<\/strong>, a concert catering company in Kansas City, Missouri. In the process, Penny became a member of the Kansas City rock scene herself. From both the tales on her website, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rockandrollstories.info\/\" target=\"_blank\">Rock and Roll Stories<\/a>, and our conversations about her her experiences, it quickly became clear that Penny was among the many nice ones in the rock scene, super nice.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>But this hard-working, rock &#8216;n roll-loving hippie (in the best sense of the term) isn&#8217;t beyond dishing more than her patented turkey dinners. In the course of our talk we gain some shocking insights about the likes of Roger Waters, Neil Diamond, and Bob Dylan &#8211; not to mention a story about Van Halen that&#8217;s more disgusting than I would have thought possible. A key detail about a diminutive purple presence in the &#8217;80s rock scene explains so much, but let&#8217;s not get ahead of ourselves. In the true spirit of the Halls of Rock, Penny brings a cheerful attitude, a bruised-but-not-beaten sense of idealism, and the willingness to let it all hang out. You won&#8217;t run into a Penny on any old street corner.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Penny&#8217;s website chronicles some of her earliest rock &#8216;n roll stories, including <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rockandrollstories.info\/thebeatles.htm\" target=\"_blank\">her night with The Beatles<\/a>; we start with her entry into rock &#8216;n roll catering.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> Can you summarize your work as a rock \u2018n roll caterer? How did you get started as a caterer for touring musicians? You were initially based out of a certain venue, right?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Penny:<\/strong> Well, yes and no. I worked out of the Uptown Theatre in the beginning, helping another woman and learning the ropes. But it soon extended out into <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rockandrollstories.info\/venues.htm\" target=\"_blank\">other venues<\/a>. It was in its infant stages and we made it up as we went along. Basically we had to come up with a little dressing room food for the artists and some crew dinner for 20 or so guys. The reason I got involved was because I loved going to concerts and wanted to be backstage, so I soon realized there was a need for food and I knew that was something I could do.<\/p>\n<p>It just kept evolving and demands from the artists kept getting more involved and official. A contract &#8220;rider&#8221; came along, which listed all the particular needs of each act and their food requirements were included. So it didn\u2019t take long for me to start specializing in concert catering. I never wanted to do other kinds of catering, because I was only doing it to be backstage.<br \/>\n<!--nextpage--><br \/><iframe class='youtube-player youtuber' type='text\/html' width='425' height='355' src='http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/NVqArOogY-c?rel=0&amp;fs=1&amp;ap=%252526fmt%253D18' webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen frameborder='0'><\/iframe><br \/>\n<strong>RTH:<\/strong> Did you have any training as a caterer or in the food service industry?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Penny:<\/strong> After years of going to concerts, I was asked to be a runner for a <strong>Grateful Dead<\/strong> show. My job was to take one of the cooks who was on the road with the Dead around to buy groceries. This guy was very abusive to me and yelled at me about everyplace I took him, ranting &#8220;Aren&#8217;t there any decent stores in this fucking town?&#8221; I was so traumatized by the experience, I almost quit. But I hung in there and lived through it. Soon I started helping out a couple of other women who were providing food for the local promoter. That was my only real training. Just jumping in and learning by trial and error. This was a pioneer field, it was being made up as it went along.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> Do you remember the first band you ever fed?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Penny:<\/strong> That&#8217;s kind of hard to answer. It happened gradually, but I guess I&#8217;d have to say, when my girlfriend and I got officially hired as the caterers for some young promoters who were starting a production company, we did a string of shows, including people like <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/index.php\/induction_speech_miller\" target=\"_blank\">Eddie Money<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/index.php\/group_grope_the_tubes\" target=\"_blank\">The Tubes<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/index.php\/jamuary\" target=\"_blank\">Santana<\/a>.  Actually the first show I ever did on my own was Finnigan, Dudek, and Kruger at the Uptown. It was my birthday and Mike Finnigan told me happy birthday on stage.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> You have a nice story about meeting Animals\u2019 manager <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rockandrollstories.info\/terrymcvay.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Terry McVay<\/a> backstage, when you were a young woman. You kept in touch with him over the years, through his work with <strong>Eric Burdon<\/strong>\u2019s New Animals and War. McVay sounds like he was, in some ways, your sponsor into the world of rock \u2018n roll. Rock \u2018n roll is such a major industry these days, with major label performers seemingly miles away from the audience. Can you characterize how small and intimate the world of rock \u2018n roll was while it was first reaching new heights in the 1960s?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Penny:<\/strong> Yeah, it was pretty small and intimate all right. In the &#8217;60s, there was no security to speak of, at least the kind you have now, just a few off-duty cops making a few extra bucks. No backstage passes. If you were brave enough to make your way backstage and act like you were supposed to be there, no one paid much attention to you.<\/p>\n<p>You may have read about my encounter with <strong>Jimmy Page<\/strong> when I was in high school. I went to see a <a href=\"http:\/\/images.marketplaceadvisor.channeladvisor.com\/hi\/43\/43213\/yard66clark.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">Dick Clark Caravan of Stars show<\/a> and really wanted to see <strong>The Yardbirds<\/strong>. I really liked the English bands the most. I was looking forward to seeing <strong>Jeff Beck<\/strong>, but he wasn\u2019t in the band, Jimmy Page was. After the show, he came back out when most people had left, to get his equipment together, so I began chatting with him. That\u2019s how intimate it was. I asked him for an autograph and he signed the back of my report card. He was totally unknown then, but he was very nice and friendly to me. Later, when <strong>Led Zeppelin<\/strong> came to town, I wandered backstage after the show to talk to Jimmy and stood in a tiny dressing room and watched him and <strong>Robert Plant<\/strong> be interviewed. No one gave me a hard time for being back there at all.<\/p>\n<p>Terry McVay was a real sweetheart and, yes, he did usher me into the world of rock &#8216;n roll. He was a true gentleman and never tried to take advantage of me. In fact, he treated me with the utmost respect and showed some real trust that still amazes me to this day.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> Was there a point in your career when you first sensed a significant loss of intimacy between artists and fans?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Penny:<\/strong> That\u2019s an interesting question. Let me see\u2026 You know, I guess I\u2019d have to say it depended on the artist. Even a show that is massive like <strong>Pink Floyd<\/strong> can still seem intimate to their fans if the artist is really connecting to them. I did several Floyd gigs and it was always exciting and transcendent, so I\u2019d say they kept the intimacy going. There were definitely shows when I didn\u2019t necessarily feel like the artist was in touch, but that was just my own assessment. Others around me were totally feeling the connection, so I\u2019d say it\u2019s a personal thing. I still go to shows regularly and I think intimacy is still alive and well depending on the atmosphere and the mood of the artist and fan. Seeing someone in a small club is still very intimate and personal, and I\u2019ve experienced it recently with someone like <strong>Carolyn Wonderland<\/strong> or <strong>David Lindley<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> Did I read correctly that prior to your work as a rock \u2018n roll caterer you were a seamstress for rock artists? Did you and a friend actually get started by taking it upon yourselves to design clothes for <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rockandrollstories.info\/peterframpton.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Peter Frampton<\/a><\/strong>? (If you ever re-launch your stage clothes business, let me know! I\u2019ve been looking around from some shirts like my hippie uncle used to wear, with giant collars and velvet trim.)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Penny:<\/strong> I was never an official seamstress for artists. It was my first attempt at getting close to them before catering presented itself. Yes, we did take it upon ourselves to single out Peter Frampton and actually got him to try them on. And we did make some clothes for a fledgling English band who was traveling around the US playing high schools, but that\u2019s about as far as it went.<\/p>\n<p><em>NEXT: Close Encounters With Bob Dylan!<\/em><!--nextpage--><\/p>\n<div class=\"image_block\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/media\/blogs\/rth\/fooddylan.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/media\/blogs\/rth\/fooddylan.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"524\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"image_legend\">(Image from Rock Is Dead, but it Won&#8217;t Lie Down)<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> Would you have taken <strong>Bob Dylan<\/strong> for a banana pudding lover? <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rockandrollstories.info\/dylan.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Your story<\/a> of serving him banana pudding only after he\u2019d sign a special wall in the venue where he was playing is a lot of fun.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Penny:<\/strong> Oh, banana pudding was a regular dessert that we made often. It was always a favorite with everyone. No, I didn\u2019t take Bob Dylan for a banana pudding kind of guy, but I never really wondered about his eating habits at all before that experience. He was such a regular guy and loved the home cooking we did rather than the opportunity to go out to some nice restaurant to be wined and dined. I liked his presence immensely.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> Your website has an <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rockandrollstories.info\/shows.htm\" target=\"_blank\">impressive list<\/a> of artist you\u2019ve served. Who were some of your favorites to work with?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Penny:<\/strong> My favorites were probably <strong>Sting<\/strong> and <strong>Bonnie Raitt<\/strong>, and I fed them over and over. I always enjoyed doing shows with <strong>James Taylor<\/strong>, <strong>Neil Young<\/strong>, and <strong>Pink Floyd<\/strong>, they were all laid back and easy to please, surrounded themselves with nice people. But Sting and Bonnie I got to know and had personal relationships with, at least as personal as you can get with famous people. What I learned about rock stars was that they would tell you how good a friend you were to them while they were there, but as soon as they moved on to the next town, they were on to their next best friend. Out of site, out of mind. I was always a little disappointed about that. I wanted to think that my friendship with them was memorable, but how could it be? They interacted with thousands of people in hundreds of cities and towns. Fame is a very interesting thing. I don&#8217;t envy those people, it&#8217;s a hard life and you&#8217;ve got to really want that kind of attention to live with it.<\/p>\n<p><em>I\u2019d like to ask you a few questions about your rock catering practices. In my humble experiences as an amateur musician I\u2019ve only been fed by the venue in which my band played a couple of times, and no one ever served me banana pudding! Here goes:<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> What was the typical day of a rock &#8216;n roll caterer like? Did artists typically eat before or after sound check? Did you also serve the road crew and hangers-on?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Penny:<\/strong> Well, to be accurate, a typical day starts several days ahead of time. There is so much preparation that goes into a show, it&#8217;s unbelievable. Buying groceries, cases of sodas, bottled water, untold amounts of liquor, juices, table linens from the linen service, giant bags of ice, paper products like plates, cups, plastic ware. The list goes on and on.<\/p>\n<p>But to get back to the original question, a typical day starts at 7:00 or 8:00 am, whenever the morning call is, could be earlier. Load-in begins. Hot and cold breakfast for the road crew and the local stage hands goes on until around 10:00 am or so. In the meantime, you&#8217;re working on lunch. Deli trays, salads, soup, breads, fruits, sometimes a hot entree. That is served up around noon to 1:00 pm for the road crew and local hands and anyone else who has shown up. It stays up until 2:00 pm or so.<\/p>\n<p>Keep in mind that some of these venues have a kitchen area to work out of, but most don&#8217;t. You can be set up in a hallway, tunnel, bathroom, some small room that is not in use, just about anything you can think of. I seldom had a real kitchen set-up, so it was like setting up camp.<\/p>\n<p>While lunch is being served, you are now working on dinner and dressing rooms. The band usually arrives at the venue between 3:00 and 4:00 pm and soundcheck ensues shortly thereafter. So dressing rooms have to be ready. Dressing rooms for the main artist, the band, the opening act, horn section, backup singers, whatever is required. In each of those rooms coolers and bus tubs full of iced drinks. Coffee and tea set-ups, veggie and cheese trays, hot appetizers, bottles of wine, liquor, seltzers, sodas, etc. Whatever other outrageous things the artists want.<\/p>\n<p>Dinner is usually served at 5:30 or 6:00 pm. All these meals have to be precisely on time, because of union demands and the show schedule. Dinner is the biggest meal of the day and the real dishes and silverware come out and the table linens. No holds barred. There are usually several hot entrees, many salads and side dishes all served up in big steam tables. Desserts, drinks, coffee, tea, bottled water, you name it. Dinner goes on for at least a couple of hours, so that band, road crew, stagehands, managers, guests, can all come and partake when they are able.<\/p>\n<p>There are also usually drinks that go in strategic places on or around the stage, at the sound and light mixing board, and in the production, accounting, and management offices. When the band goes on stage, then you go into their dressing rooms and tidy up, emptying excess water out of bus tubs, re-icing, fluffing up the food trays, clearing trash and anything else that needs tending to. Sometimes you get to sneak out front for a few minutes to see a bit of the show, but you can&#8217;t stay long because you have to start cleaning up dinner, wash dishes and dirty pots and pans and then start getting the food and drinks ready for the buses.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, you heard me right. After food being served continuously all day long, now there is some kind of carry out food (that you have to go buy) delivered to the buses for the road crew to eat after load-out and their showers, when they get back on the road to the next venue. Not only food, but cases of beers, water, sodas, and juices. Sometimes there are a dozen buses who all want that much food.<\/p>\n<p>Once the show is over and the band leaves the building, then you have to go in and clean up all the dressing rooms and start putting all this stuff back into boxes and coolers to load back out of the building. Along with all the kitchen set-up and all the leftover supplies and food. And if it&#8217;s winter, this can all be taking place in the worst kind of weather, freezing rain or snow.<\/p>\n<p>You&#8217;re lucky to have this all done by 2:00 am or later. You keep a giant urn of coffee going for all the stagehands who have returned after the show to break down the stage and maybe some snack food for them. Sometimes you have to supply dozens of towels for the crew to use to take showers at the end of load-out and you have to round the wet dirty towels all back up to return to the linen service. If you leave the building and get home by 3:00 am, unless you have a heated garage to drive your catering truck into, then you&#8217;ve got to unload perishable items or things you don&#8217;t want to freeze back into your kitchen at home and put it all away.<\/p>\n<p>By now, your body can&#8217;t move anymore, but your mind won&#8217;t stop. You have to unwind by smoking a little pot and letting yourself gradually fall asleep. The next day you can barely walk.<\/p>\n<p>That pretty much sums it up, but can vary greatly from gig to gig.<\/p>\n<p>To answer your other question, I guess I\u2019d have to say as a rule the artists usually ate something before the show. Some would want to wait until after the show and we\u2019d have to have a full sit-down meal for them in their dressing room when they came off the stage. <strong>Van Halen<\/strong> asked for that on one tour. Sting would ask for a chicken or turkey sandwich after the show to be brought to him. Once when I did a <strong>Tom Petty<\/strong> show, <strong>Mike Campbell<\/strong> and <strong>Stan Lynch<\/strong> asked if I would save them some meat loaf for after the show. They said it smelled and looked great to them, but they just couldn\u2019t eat it before the show. So I kept it warm for them and they rushed right from the stage to the kitchen to get some. Stan Lynch said he thought about it all through the show.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> Did you typically offer a set menu each night; did artists order off a small variety of dishes, as in a cafeteria or at a wedding; or did artists, via their management, dictate what you prepared in their contract with the venue?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Penny:<\/strong> Oh no, I never got to speak directly to the artists. They have a bevy of people that surround them to take care of their every whim. The shows were usually advanced with the road manager or dressing room assistant. Sometimes I would speak to someone from their entourage several times over a period of a few weeks, firming up arrangements, depending on how big and important the band was at the time. But then it could all change at a moments notice. The trick was to be very flexible and always expect everything to change.<\/p>\n<p>Some had very specific requests. If they wanted something at the spur of the moment, we would try to accommodate them. The shows were usually advanced with the road manager or dressing room assistant. Sometimes I would speak to someone from their entourage several times over a period of a few weeks, firming up arrangements, depending on how big and important the band was at the time. For instance, once when I did a Springsteen show, <strong>Max Weinberg<\/strong> requested spaghetti sauce and pasta be kept warm in the dressing room at a certain temperature while he was onstage. It was supposed to be ready for him when he came off. I went to a lot of trouble and stress to make sure that happened and then he didn\u2019t touch a thing. That was always my biggest pet peeve. I thought someone should be updating that rider constantly to see what they were tired of and change things up. It was such a waste of food. The other thing was that everything could all change at a moments notice. The trick was to be very flexible and not be surprised if they wanted to change something at the last minute. And sometimes it was beyond your control to be able to get what they wanted.<\/p>\n<div class=\"image_block\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/media\/blogs\/rth\/foodmax.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/media\/blogs\/rth\/foodmax.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"267\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"image_legend\">That&#8217;ll teach him!<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> Once it was the day of the show how much personal contact did you have with the artists?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Penny:<\/strong> Oh, I had lots of personal contact with the stars. Once they arrived at the venue, I introduced myself  and my crew to them and made myself available. I loved talking to them and I treated them like regular people. The kitchen and dining room areas were the heart of the backstage. The artists were drawn there just like their Mom&#8217;s kitchen at home. They felt comforted there from the hardship of the road. Sometimes they would wander in, looking for something to munch on and end up telling me their stories or asking me about Kansas City. Sometimes my kids would be there and they would interact with them. It made them feel normal for awhile. And I loved seeing what made them tick, what these people were like that created this music I loved so much.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> Did you receive any memorable compliments?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Penny:<\/strong> Well, let&#8217;s see. Besides people thanking me for the great care they were given while they were in town, Sting was a real sweetheart and told me once when I introduced him to my young daughter that she was pretty like me. And I always felt it was a compliment when someone would dedicate a song to me on stage. <strong>Ray Davies<\/strong> was a very sweet man and dedicated a song to me. Bonnie Raitt has dedicated songs to me and my husband three different times, telling us that we were one of her favorite couples.<\/p>\n<p><em>NEXT: And you thought the M&amp;Ms&#8217; story said it all?<\/em><!--nextpage--><\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> Conversely, did any artist complain or otherwise make your work difficult?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Penny:<\/strong> Oh, yes&#8230;  Some shows were miserable to do. I dreaded Van Halen every time they came to town. It wasn&#8217;t the band itself that was bad to deal with, but their roadies and management. They loved making a day hard on everyone. I had many a distressful 24 hours trying to make them happy. <strong>Rush<\/strong> was another one. Both these bands had dressing room guys who were the worst. Plus, there was a guy that worked for <strong>AC\/DC<\/strong> and <strong>Metallica<\/strong> who loved to throw fits. And drugs didn&#8217;t help their dispositions either.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> You worked with Van Halen! Did your staff have to pick out certain-colored M&amp;Ms, or was that someone else\u2019s job? If you worked with them, did they have any other ridiculous rules about what couldn\u2019t be served, such as no left chicken wings or no inner leaves of lettuce?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Penny:<\/strong> Well, let&#8217;s see. The first time I did Van Halen, they asked for something that was more bizarre than the M&amp;M&#8217;s. The rider said they wanted &#8220;Coney Island Whitefish.&#8221; I&#8217;d never heard of that, but I was an inland girl and just figured it was some kind of fish I wasn&#8217;t aware of. When I asked the promoter about it, he said it was referring to condoms. I was shocked. I said, &#8220;You mean they want me to get rubbers for their dressing room?&#8221; The promoter said, &#8220;Not just rubbers laid around in packages, they want you to take them out of the wrappers and decorate with them. Be creative.&#8221; I thought it was ridiculous, but I was learning that was rock and roll. So, what we did was hang the condoms from some very expensive flower arrangements that they wanted in their dressing room. The arrangements were contemporary and had branches from trees sticking out of them, so we hung the condoms on the branches like xmas tree ornaments. Plus, we blew some of them up like balloons. I think they were amused.<\/p>\n<div class=\"image_block\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/media\/blogs\/rth\/foodcondoms.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/media\/blogs\/rth\/foodcondoms.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"515\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"image_legend\">Catch of the day!<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> What was it like feeding <strong>Michael Jackson<\/strong> and his crew?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Penny:<\/strong> Well, you&#8217;re going to have to wait until I do the story on that one. I just can&#8217;t encapsulate it here. What I will tell you is that he started the second leg of the tour in Kansas City again, after being in Japan and Australia. There was something about him wanting to start his tours in KC, I don&#8217;t know why, maybe because it was the middle of the country. It was Feb. 23 &amp; 24, 1988. I had just hired a new crew and they were broken in at Michael Jackson. It was a very high-profile event and each night was sold out to 17,000 people. He was slipped in and out of the venue and none of us really laid eyes on him. <strong>Sheryl Crowe<\/strong> was his unknown back-up singer and she was from this area, so she had lots of family around. The most fun for me and my crew was watching him rehearse during the day. Seeing his movie, <em>This Is It<\/em> reminded me a lot of my experience with him. Just watching him putting it together on stage, but not ever interacting with him personally.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> You&#8217;ve noted that drugs were a free-flowing part of late-\u201870s rock culture. Did anyone ever request that you prepare hash brownies or Neil Young\u2019s recipe for honey slides?<\/p>\n<p><em>NEXT: Perhaps this interview&#8217;s most shocking revelation!<\/em><!--nextpage--><\/p>\n<div class=\"image_block\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/media\/blogs\/rth\/fooddiamond.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/media\/blogs\/rth\/fooddiamond.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"405\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"image_legend\">Diamond demonstrates how he holds his yard-long bong!<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Penny:<\/strong> Funny you should ask that. The only artist who ever requested &#8220;special&#8221; brownies was <strong>Neil Diamond<\/strong>. That always cracked me up. No one else ever just blatantly asked me to do it. Of all the rockers, who would have imagined Neil Diamond?<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> What was your most embarrassing moment as a caterer, such as spilling food on a performer or whatever?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Penny:<\/strong> Well, I guess that would have been when I was doing a Michael Jackson gig. The dining room was full and I was carrying a platter of food across the room to the serving table and I stepped on something slippery and started to do the splits. As I thought I was going down and food would be everywhere a helping hand suddenly came out of nowhere and helped me get my balance. It was <strong>Nico Brando<\/strong>, the son of Marlon Brando, who traveled with MJ and was his right hand man. Everyone applauded. He was very sweet and gracious and my hero for the day.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> Were there foods that you typically avoided (or recommended against) serving because they may not have been conducive to performing?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Penny:<\/strong> The road manager doing the advance work usually knew what foods to avoid. When they would call me to advance a show, we would thoroughly discuss the menu selection and they would ask what my specialties were. My specialty was a full turkey dinner with all the trimmings and that was always a big hit. We fixed meat loaf a lot, and smoked chicken was a favorite.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> Did you ever think that an artist\u2019s taste in food especially aligned with his or her musical persona? Conversely, did you ever come across an artist whose taste in food ran counter to what you would have expected based on their music? For instance, I\u2019d be shocked to learn that Sting requested ribs or that ZZ Top requested a vegan meal.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Penny:<\/strong> Ha! I\u2019m trying to think where that might be true. Kansas City is known for its barbeque, so just about everyone who ever came here was looking forward to that, whether it be Sting or ZZ Top. We served it a lot.<\/p>\n<div class=\"image_block\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/media\/blogs\/rth\/penny.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/media\/blogs\/rth\/penny.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"302\" height=\"414\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"image_legend\">Penny today.<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> You are out of the catering business. Do you miss it? Do you stay in touch with any of the artists you\u2019ve served? What are you up to these days?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Penny:<\/strong> Well, this question is a real double-edged sword. Sometimes I do miss it terribly. I was really in my element in that atmosphere; I thrived in it. It fit my personality so well. I felt it was a magical environment that I got to be part of. There were no rules, it was all being made up as it went along. But as time went by the corruption and excesses became unbearable. I couldn&#8217;t justify all the decadence and wastefulness. I couldn&#8217;t be in that environment anymore, I was outgrowing it spiritually and I couldn&#8217;t keep taking all the physical abuse to my body. My current husband came along in &#8217;87 and worked with me for awhile, but finally convinced me that it was a hellish environment. And I certainly wasn&#8217;t making any money at it. I was known as the most reasonable caterer in the country because I wasn&#8217;t charging as much as anyone else. I just wanted to be around the music.<\/p>\n<p>When I finally decided to leave it in &#8217;89, it was right at the time <strong>The Rolling Stones<\/strong> were going out on their big <em>Steel Wheels<\/em> tour and they were looking for a caterer to do their tour. I was finally in the position where I had a sterling reputation in the industry and could have expanded my company and gone into other markets, like St. Louis, Chicago, and New Orleans. But the Stones tour was completely over the top; their contract rider requirements were so outrageous I knew I couldn&#8217;t handle it. I didn&#8217;t want to handle it. It went to another woman who catered out of Indiana and I was relieved. I knew then that I had to get out while I was on top. So I turned it all over to a friend of mine and moved to a little town in Arkansas and started writing about it.<\/p>\n<p>The upside is that since I&#8217;ve left it, I now get to enjoy it. I still know all the production guys that do all the really big tours, so when someone like <strong>The Police<\/strong> comes to town I get the royal treatment and get treated to great seats and I get to visit with my old friends on the crew and I don&#8217;t have to do any of the hard work. I go there, watch the show, and come home to my cozy home.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, I do run into people who I once fed and now that Facebook has come along I&#8217;ve reconnected with dozens of musicians who played with <strong>Billy Joel<\/strong> or <strong>Elton John<\/strong> or lots of others and we interact there. Facebook is an excellent tool for keeping that musical network alive. I have production managers that I knew and dressing room assistants or backup singers as my friends on Facebook, so I know what they are all up to and they know what I&#8217;m doing. It&#8217;s quite interesting how technology has changed the industry.<\/p>\n<p>So I do miss it, but it has evolved into another phase that I&#8217;m still experiencing. And that&#8217;s why I started writing and creating my website to showcase some of my stories. I&#8217;ve written chapters and chapters of stories with the help of my husband and could put together several books. It&#8217;s still my passion.<\/p>\n<p>Now I\u2019ve become a social media fanatic on Facebook and love networking and being the central hub of the wheel. Most people I\u2019ve worked with through the years know they can count on me to keep them connected to who they may want to find. I take film footage at concerts and post them on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/rockandrollgrandma13\" target=\"_blank\">my YouTube channel<\/a>, and I also do a blog under the name of <a href=\"http:\/\/rockandrollgrandma.blogspot.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Rock and Roll Grandma<\/a>, since I have a 10-year-old granddaughter whom I school in the ways of music. Fifteen years ago, I began studying herbs and aromatherapy and have created a line of body care products under the name of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.penmarkpotions.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Penmark Potions<\/a>. I just turned 60 and I realize I am still happiest going to concerts and listening to my favorite music, which includes <a href=\"http:\/\/www.myspace.com\/thebenon\" target=\"_blank\">Be\/Non<\/a> (my son\u2019s band) Mark Knopfler, Peter Gabriel, Don Henley, Joni Mitchell, Tori Amos, NIN, and many others.<\/p>\n<p><em>NEXT: Penny sits down for some Dugout Chatter!<\/em><!--nextpage--><\/p>\n<div class=\"image_block\" style=\"text-align: center;\">\n<div><object classid=\"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" width=\"400\" height=\"400\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"data\" value=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/dugout400x400.swf\" \/><param name=\"src\" value=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/dugout400x400.swf\" \/><embed type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" width=\"400\" height=\"400\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/dugout400x400.swf\" data=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/dugout400x400.swf\"><\/embed><\/object><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> Who had the best table manners in rock? Who had the worst?<\/p>\n<p>Table manners? Well, they didn\u2019t always sit down at a table in my presence, but I guess I\u2019d have to say Sting; he always displayed a gentlemanly manner in everything he did and still does.  As worst manners go, anyone that had anything to do with Van Halen, at least during a certain period. They were just a bunch of rude guys.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> Who&#8217;s the fussiest eater in rock?<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019d probably have to say <strong>Prince<\/strong> for me. He\u2019s a veggie\/vegan guy and they are the hardest to feed. I never fed <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kansascity.com\/2010\/07\/21\/2096714\/memories-of-past-mccartney-shows.html\" target=\"_blank\">McCartney<\/a>, but I\u2019ve heard about his tours and, like Prince, guys who are non-meat eaters don\u2019t want anyone on the crew eating meat or any meat on the premises at all. If anyone is caught eating a hamburger they can be fined or fired from the tour. <strong>Chrissie Hynde<\/strong> is another strong anti-meat person, and I\u2019ve heard the same about her.<\/p>\n<p>Oh yes, I did <strong>Bob Marley<\/strong> once and he had a cook with him to prepare his sacred Rastafarian food; no one else was supposed to touch it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> Offstage, was Eric Burdon in as foul a mood as his musical persona would suggest?<\/p>\n<p>Nah, Eric Burdon was a pretty nice guy. His bark is way worse than his bite.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> What&#8217;s the first thing that comes to mind when you think <em>rock musicians<\/em> and <em>condiments<\/em>?<\/p>\n<p>Ha! That\u2019s funny. Condiments, huh? Condiments never seemed to be an issue that I had to deal with. Many other things were issues, but not condiments.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> Were opening acts ever scolded if they tried to eat before the headliner or if they took the last portion of a food being served?<\/p>\n<p>Not really. They are usually included in the meal count and generally eat first since they play first. The headliners are mostly friendly to them and want to make sure they are taken care of.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s a story that concerns being scolded. <strong>Ray Charles<\/strong> came to the Uptown once and brought a small orchestra with him, maybe a dozen people. There were no food requirements on their rider except for a few things in his dressing room. The promoter told us to provide a complimentary deli tray and soft drinks for the orchestra in the dining room, so we did. When Ray heard about it, he threw a fit and made us take the food away from them, even though he didn\u2019t have to pay for it. I was stunned. Never had any respect for him after that, he was a real ass.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> Did an artist ever request onstage snacks? I could imagine ZZ Top, for instance, needing a little solid-food nourishment between songs.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, there was the occasional artist who wanted food on stage. When The Police toured, Sting requested slices of pineapple on stage to help his throat. Also <strong>Roger Daltry<\/strong> requested jars of warm, runny honey onstage to soothe his throat. It was usually for a specific purpose, not just because they had the munchies.<\/p>\n<p>Although if you want to talk about the munchies, the Pink Floyd guys were real stoners and ate just about everything in site. They ate all the food in their dressing room, they always ate dinner and they were ready for more food when they came off stage.  We always thought that was pretty funny. I\u2019ve got a really good story about feeding them in two different cities on their \u201cMomentary Lapse of Reason\u201d tour.<\/p>\n<p><small><em>Thanks to Dave Simpson of <\/em><em>The Guardian<\/em> for asking some similar questions of Penny a few months, which were edited out of a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/music\/2010\/apr\/15\/rock-n-roll-jobs-explained\" target=\"_blank\">published piece<\/a> on behind-the-scenes concert industry workers and which saved Penny the time of retyping answers to some of my questions. As with so many Townspeople I&#8217;ve had the good fortune to run into in this joint, a bit of thanks must also go to a fellow Townsperson for the introduction, in this case my close personal friend and partner in crime, <strong>sammymaudlin<\/strong>, and his lovely, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/index.php\/heaven-and-hell-my-life-in-the-eagles-19\" target=\"_blank\">Don Felder biography-reviewing wife<\/a>, two more folks you won&#8217;t meet on any old street corner.<\/small><\/p>\n<nav class=\"page-links\"><strong>Pages:<\/strong> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/penny-rush-valladares-rock-n-roll-caterer\/\" class=\"post-page-numbers\"><span class=\"page-num\">1<\/span><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/penny-rush-valladares-rock-n-roll-caterer\/2\/\" class=\"post-page-numbers\"><span class=\"page-num\">2<\/span><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/penny-rush-valladares-rock-n-roll-caterer\/3\/\" class=\"post-page-numbers\"><span class=\"page-num\">3<\/span><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/penny-rush-valladares-rock-n-roll-caterer\/4\/\" class=\"post-page-numbers\"><span class=\"page-num\">4<\/span><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/penny-rush-valladares-rock-n-roll-caterer\/5\/\" class=\"post-page-numbers\"><span class=\"page-num\">5<\/span><\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/penny-rush-valladares-rock-n-roll-caterer\/6\/\" class=\"post-page-numbers\"><span class=\"page-num\">6<\/span><\/a><\/nav>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Rock &#8216;n Roll Caterer takes five, in 1985! Years ago, when my wife and I were first dating, we ran into one of my old musician friends on a street corner. 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