{"id":949,"date":"2007-10-31T16:54:55","date_gmt":"2007-10-31T20:54:55","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2012-06-25T20:58:55","modified_gmt":"2012-06-26T00:58:55","slug":"big-dipper-waleik","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/big-dipper-waleik\/","title":{"rendered":"Big Dipper\u2019s Gary Waleik Hears the Sirens\u2019 Call"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"image_block\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/media\/users\/frankenslade\/bigdiplittlepic.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"136\" \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"image_legend\">Head shot<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>January 20, 2004<\/strong>, a day that will be forever burned in the minds of a handful of listeners of <em>WFMU&#8217;s The Best Show on WFMU<\/em>. It was <a href=\"http:\/\/wfmu.org\/listen.ram?show=10182&amp;archive=11269\" title=\"http:\/\/wfmu.org\/listen.ram?show=10182&amp;archive=11269\" target=\"_blank\">here (first introduced about 1:12 into the episode and picked after a few choice Big Dipper songs at 1:49)<\/a> that host <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.friendsoftom.com\/\" title=\"http:\/\/www.friendsoftom.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Tom Scharpling<\/a><\/strong> first summoned the members of the long-disbanded Boston band to see if he could spark a dramatic reunion. If you&#8217;ll recall, reunion was in the air, following the stunning and emotional <strong>Berlin<\/strong> and <strong>A Flock of Seagulls<\/strong> reunions that had recently been shepherded through VH-1. Through his persistence, Scharpling would set off a montage of awkward hugs, slow-motion instrument polishing, drum-head changing, finger-building exercises, and stage clothes shopping excursions that. Nearly 4 years later comes the news that <strong>Big Dipper is indeed reuniting<\/strong> for a handful of shows in April 2008 and the release of a 3-CD set. The release will include a 12-page booklet with liner notes by Scharpling and, most importantly, songs from the band&#8217;s first 3 long-out-of-print albums along with the requisit rarities, unreleased tracks, and even the original video for &#8220;Faith Healer&#8221;. I&#8217;ve been waiting a long time for this day, and I&#8217;ve been waiting a long time to have more than this grainy, 12th-generation clip that&#8217;s been floating around YouTube for some time as a visual record of the band.<\/p><iframe class='youtube-player youtuber' type='text\/html' width='425' height='355' src='http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/LedY9UHInlw?rel=0&amp;fs=1&amp;ap=%252526fmt%253D18' webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen frameborder='0'><\/iframe><p>We will have more news on the CD and the shows as details are finalized. For now, we welcome <strong>Gary Waleik<\/strong>, Big Dipper guitarist and go-to guy on the low harmony parts, to the Halls of Rock. In my days of attending Big Dipper shows, Gary was always a great guy to chat with, and he&#8217;s no different today. Following this scratchy vinyl-burned track from the band&#8217;s <em>Heavens<\/em> lp, let&#8217;s get it on!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Big Dipper, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/RockTownHall\/MrWoods.mp3\" title=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/RockTownHall\/MrWoods.mp3\">&#8220;Mr. Woods&#8221;<\/a><\/strong><br \/>\n<!--Media Player file:http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/RockTownHall\/MrWoods.mp3--><\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> So it&#8217;s true that Big Dipper going to reunite for some shows in April 2008! Do you know where you&#8217;ll be playing?<\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> Yes. We plan on playing two shows in Boston and two in the New York area starting 4\/23\/08. They will include shows at <strong>Maxwell\u2019s<\/strong> in Hoboken and <strong>The Middle East<\/strong> in Cambridge. <\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> Will it be just a few shows, or are you ditching your well-established adult lives for one more shot at conquering <strong>The Road<\/strong>?<\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> My guess is that those 4 shows will probably be all we do. If it goes well, I may pitch for a quick Midwest tour (Chicago, Lawrence, Wichita, Columbus, something like that), but we\u2019re too busy as family men and gainfully employed individuals to risk it all on another full-blown rock and roll fling. Though the sirens do call from time to time\u2026<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/><iframe class='youtube-player youtuber' type='text\/html' width='425' height='355' src='http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/V_29w_bc4KE?rel=0&amp;fs=1&amp;ap=%252526fmt%253D18' webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen frameborder='0'><\/iframe><br \/>\n<strong>RTH:<\/strong> Did this reunion really spring out of the efforts by Tom Scharpling, of <em>The Best Show on WFMU<\/em>, to get you back together? Is this something you&#8217;d previously considered? <\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> Tom certainly got the ball rolling over 4 years ago, and I\u2019d give him a lot of the credit because I\u2019m just not sure we would have done it otherwise. We had talked about it a bit, but felt that it would be risky, considering how high the bar was set by A Flock of Seagulls. <\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> You mention on <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/profile.myspace.com\/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&amp;friendID=68752244\" title=\"http:\/\/profile.myspace.com\/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&amp;friendID=68752244\" target=\"_blank\">the Big Dipper MySpace page<\/a><\/strong> some reservations about reuniting, that everyone does it, that you&#8217;re not sure if you were ever a great live band, etc. Is there anything in particular that finally pushed you over the edge and convinced you to go for it?<\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> I don\u2019t think there\u2019s any one thing in particular that helped us make the leap. If anything, it\u2019s the fact that our kids are older, we have a bit more time, and maybe we\u2019re a bit more desperate to lead adult lives than we were even 4 years ago. There\u2019s only so much <strong>Teletubbies<\/strong> you can watch without completely losing your mind. Of course, there\u2019s only so much indie rock you can play before insanity sets in, so it\u2019s a balancing act. If Bill starts looking like Laa-Laa when we\u2019re back on stage, I\u2019m going to FREAK OUT!<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> You\u2019re spread out around the country a bit these days \u2013 or is it just Steve who\u2019s outside New England? <\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> Bill, Jeff, and I are still in New England. Steve is living in Walla Walla, Washington with his wife and two children. He and Denise are running <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.triovintners.com\/\" title=\"http:\/\/www.triovintners.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Trio Vintners<\/a><\/strong>, a start-up wine company. So in addition to his geographical remoteness, Steve is isolated by the fact that he\u2019s the only self-employed member of the band, which I\u2019m sure is a tremendous burden. I\u2019m hoping he makes a lot of money at it so we can quit our jobs, buy that window van we\u2019ve always wanted and rock well into our 60s\u2026or 70s. Maybe\u2026not.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> How are rehearsals going? <\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> Well, they really aren\u2019t yet. I\u2019m still trying to remember which end of the guitar you blow into to produce sound. But Steve\u2019s begun relearning the songs, and at some point Bill, Jeff, and I will convene to play a little so we\u2019ll be ready when Steve jets into town in April.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> Has it been difficult remembering your parts? <\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> I think it might be for some songs, but I seem to have a photographic (maybe the term should be \u201celectromagnetic\u201d) musical memory. I remember pretty much all of it. I think. I hope\u2026<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> Have you toyed with writing new material, recording anything new or left unrecorded from long ago?<\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> I have been writing some new material, as have Bill and Jeff. A couple months ago, Bill and I put vocals to a song Big Dipper had recorded instrumentally in 1992, and I\u2019m very pleased with the results. He sang the high part, I sang the low part, and it was nice and easy\u2026just like old times. I hope we\u2019ll be inspired to write and record a bunch of new stuff, but first things first.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> Let\u2019s go way back. How did Big Dipper come together? <\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> Steve and I were in <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Volcano_Suns\" title=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Volcano_Suns\" target=\"_blank\">Volcano Suns<\/a><\/strong>, and he joined <strong>Dumptruck<\/strong> not too long after we left that band. During that time, I had met Bill through his girlfriend, and we started hanging out on his porch and strumming guitars. Songs started coming and, to our amazement, they were actually good! When Steve left the Dumper, I suggested we get together with my cousin, Jeff, who had just left a speed metal band called XS. Jeff and I had played music together since our Uncle John and I bought him a cheap used drum kit when he was 11 years old, and I knew that his powerful style and eccentric sense of humor would endear him to the other guys. I was wrong about that at first, but once they got to know Jeff, they loved him. <\/p>\n<p>We recorded a few of our best tunes in May 1986. I sent them to <strong>Gerard Cosloy<\/strong> who was, along with <strong>Craig Marks<\/strong>, running <strong>Homestead Records<\/strong>. They loved the tunes, and sent us an unsolicited contract. Which was funny, because we didn\u2019t even have a name for the band at that time.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> What was the Volcano Suns experience like?<\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> It was tough; a volatile mixture. Peter [Prescott] must have felt he had a lot to prove post-Burma, and Steve and I were pretty young and inexperienced. I was finishing college, so it was hard to make the Suns my first priority. Just as we were starting to come together as a band and write some good songs, we started to argue a lot, and it was no fun. We all moved on, and were all better for it. But I do wish that we had stuck with it longer and recorded an album, because I think it would have been pretty good, eventually. <\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> What were your influences prior to meeting up with the Dipper guys? <\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> I was influenced by pretty much everything I had heard. When I was 8, <strong>The Beatles<\/strong> blew my mind (which is funny because my daughter discovered them at exactly the same age, and now she sits in front of the stereo and plays her recorder along to the entire <strong><\/strong><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/index.php?title=magical_mystery_tour_reconsidered_in_tru&amp;more=1&amp;c=1&amp;tb=1&amp;pb=1\" title=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/index.php?title=magical_mystery_tour_reconsidered_in_tru&amp;more=1&amp;c=1&amp;tb=1&amp;pb=1\">Magical Mystery Tour<\/a><\/strong> lp), and I was really into <strong>AM Top 40<\/strong>. In the mid-70s, I got into the <strong>Velvet Underground<\/strong> and <strong>Soft Machine<\/strong> and <strong>Love<\/strong> and <strong>the Stones<\/strong> with my Uncle John, who covered music for a local magazine in the late &#8217;60s. I was a little late in realizing the majesty of punk, because I lived in a cultural outpost while in high school. The music from 1975-1984 is some of the best and underappreciated music in the history of great, underappreciated music. I listened to a lot of classical music on the radio, and my first job was recording avant garde concert music for <strong>WBUR<\/strong>, for whom I work now. So all of that influenced me. <\/p>\n<blockquote><p><big><strong><em>I never cared at all for J. Geils Band.<\/em><\/strong><\/big><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> You\u2019re in my general age group (mid-40s), right? <\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> Yes. I just turned 45. But I\u2019m faster now than I was when I was 33. I can\u2019t wait for 78!<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> How did young Gary\u2019s record collection grow from, say, junior year in high school to sophomore year in college? <\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> Wow, was that an arbitrary span of years\u2026or have you been talking with my wife, who was also my fellow record-collector in college?<\/p>\n<p>I had learned what I could from Beatles and Stones and a lot of great &#8217;60s stuff by the end of high school, and then moved on to a more challenging sonic landscape. It started with <strong>Talking Heads<\/strong>, Sex Pistols, The Clash, Television, and Ramones and quickly branched out into miraculous regions where <strong>Wire<\/strong>, Gang of Four, <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.embarrassment.org\/\" title=\"http:\/\/www.embarrassment.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Embarrassment<\/a><\/strong>, <strong>Pell Mell<\/strong>, <strong>The Mekons<\/strong>, Swell Maps, The Monochrome Set, Mission of Burma, and The Buzzcocks frolicked.   <\/p>\n<div class=\"image_block\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/media\/users\/frankenslade\/bigdipbooboo.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" width=\"315\" height=\"322\" \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"image_legend\">Digging around<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> How did you hear yourselves, as Big Dipper, when you first started playing together? What were you aiming for musically? <\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> I heard us as an experimental pop band along the lines of <strong>Soft Boys<\/strong> or the more eccentric Beatles stuff. We were a bit odd at the beginning, but I think Bill and Steve, who are older than me by a few years, were already easing into a more traditional approach to music. I don\u2019t think we ever aimed for one thing as a band, but what we produced over the years reflected our range of influences, from daring punk and post-punk to some straight country and pop influences. It all kind of gushed out that way. Even though we all had our individual vision of what the band should be, we were all open-minded enough to let the influences emerge naturally, more or less.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> I always thought you had a cool way of combining the artsy side of punk (eg, Buzzcocks, XTC, Wire, Television), the drama of fellow Boston art rockers (eg, Mission of Burma, Christmas), and pure power pop. <\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> Thanks. I wish we had been a bit more daring, like those bands were (well, XTC became pretty darn predictable after a while, but they WERE great at one point). But it probably would have sounded too forced if we had, so I guess it all worked out in a way.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> What was the Boston scene like that you came out of? From our view in Philadelphia, at that time, it seemed worthy of our envy. You had multiple college stations, local labels that got records out, a number of energetic bands, and enthusiastic crowds.<\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> At the risk of sounding like an <strong>old fart<\/strong> repeating the all-too-familiar \u201cThings were so much better back in our day!\u201d rant, I\u2019ll say that it was great. As you point out, there were fantastic college stations (WMBR, WERS, WZBC, WMFO and others) and some pretty big commercial stations that got it, at least for a while (WBCN, WFNX and others), some good labels (though not too many) and lots of people who cared about live music. To Boston\u2019s credit, we still have those things, to a certain extent, especially the college stations, and especially WMBR. I think the big difference between now and then is the clubs. We could play <strong>The Rat<\/strong>, Chet\u2019s Last Call, <strong>TT the Bear\u2019s<\/strong>, <strong>Green Street Station<\/strong>, The Paradise, The Channel, Club III, and a bunch I\u2019m probably forgetting. There was never any problem getting a gig. Before Dipper, I think I went to see shows almost every night from 1982-1984 or so. No exaggeration\u2026 almost every night. It was a great club scene. It\u2019s not now, although I do love the smoke-free thing. <\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> Do you note a strain of \u201880s underground Boston rock that extended beyond the works of you and your friends and exists to this day? It\u2019s always seemed to me that your underground bands had an identifiable core sound, regardless of where they were on the noisier to melodic spectrum. <\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> I\u2019m not exactly sure what you mean. But I think the great thing about the Boston scene of the \u201880s is that there were a lot of very good bands, and none of them sounded alike. <strong>Salem 66<\/strong> were different from Volcano Suns, and Christmas sounded nothing like <strong>The Neats<\/strong>, but you could put them all on one bill, and it made wonderful sense. Maybe there is a common sound, but it\u2019s hard for me to identify what that is.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> Did Boston\u2019s hard-rockin\u2019 \u201870s arena rockers mean anything to you and your mates: Aerosmith, <strong>J. Geils Band<\/strong>, Boston\u2026?<\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> I can only speak for myself. I never cared at all for J. Geils Band. I was never a big Aerosmith fan, although I can\u2019t help but to admire their longevity. I had a love\/hate thing going on with the first Boston record. It bugged me that I found any use for a big arena-rock band while all this great punk music was pouring out of New York and England and Boston and elsewhere. But it\u2019s still a fun record to listen to in a lot of ways.<\/p>\n<div class=\"image_block\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" src=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/blogs\/media\/users\/frankenslade\/heavens.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"199\" \/><\/p>\n<div class=\"image_legend\">Everything is fine<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> How did you feel the band developed from <em>Boo-Boo<\/em> through <em>Heavens<\/em>, <em>Craps<\/em>, and beyond? Did you go where you wanted to go, or did you get sidetracked or otherwise fall short of what you had in mind? <\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> With <em>Boo-Boo<\/em>, we were just recording for ourselves, and paying out of our own pockets. So it\u2019s all over the place, in terms of sound and style. It\u2019s a very unself-conscious record. When we recorded <em>Heavens<\/em>, we knew we were a real band, so we went for a more cohesive approach. By <em>Craps<\/em>, we had toured a lot and were better players, but we hadn\u2019t spent nearly enough time on songwriting. As a result, we ended up with a slicker, shallower record, although it\u2019s one that I think has some stunning tracks. By <em>Slam<\/em>, the business end of things had so overwhelmed us that we just made a series of poor decisions. I\u2019d say that the good songs on <em>Slam<\/em> were quite good\u2026but there were a lot of horrible songs on that record.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s hard to say that we fell short of what we had in mind at the outset, because I don\u2019t really think we had a unified approach. I think that distinguished us from most bands, and it made for some interesting song contrasts. But it was also a weakness, and I think it ultimately did us in.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> You know <a href=\"http:\/\/overlookedgems.blogspot.com\/2005\/11\/big-dipper-heavens.html\" title=\"http:\/\/overlookedgems.blogspot.com\/2005\/11\/big-dipper-heavens.html\" target=\"_blank\">how I feel about <em>Heavens<\/em><\/a>. To me, it was the album that best represented your natural sound as a band, all the elements came together in a way that reflected what it was like seeing you live repeatedly. What stands out in your memory from the recording of that album? Was there anything special in the water, so to speak, when you recorded that one?<\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> That\u2019s my favorite, too. And I think there are several reasons it was so strong. We spent a lot of time writing songs and developing them in practice. We were all working comfortable day jobs, and supplementing our incomes with gig money. So we were paying the bills and focusing on songwriting, which was so exciting and fun. We had lots of great material from which to choose. <strong>\u201cRon Klaus Wrecked His House\u201d<\/strong> was almost ready to go, but was a last minute reject! That was a nice luxury. We had a small recording budget, so we were focused and economical in the studio. We just couldn\u2019t wait to record that album, and I think you can hear our enthusiasm. <\/p>\n<blockquote><p><big><strong><em>Don\u2019t blame Yoko.<\/em><\/strong><\/big><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> You did some cool covers in your time, not shying away from some big pop hits like <strong>\u201cJet\u201d<\/strong> and a glossy Fleetwood Mac song called <strong>\u201cLies\u201d<\/strong>, or something like that. Any other covers you had fun playing? <\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> We loved playing Husker Du\u2019s <strong>\u201cThe Girl Who Lives on Heaven Hill\u201d<\/strong>. It\u2019s a great tune, and it gave Jeff an opportunity to sing and, sometimes, gave me the opportunity to play the drums. We tried Black Sabbath\u2019s <strong>\u201cFairies Wear Boots\u201d<\/strong> once, but always fell apart laughing in the middle of it, which would have been inconvenient in front of a live audience.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> Do you think you\u2019ll pull any out for your reunion shows?<\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> I have no idea. We\u2019ve already talked about some possibilities, but <em>that will remain a secret!<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> I\u2019m ashamed to say I never knew you produced <strong>Eleventh Dream Day\u2019s <em>Beet<\/em><\/strong> until tonight! (<em>Strike 10 rock nerd points from my total score!<\/em>) That makes a lot of sense. They were a band that shared a lot of your sound. How did that come about?<\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> We played in Chicago once, and stayed with some fans of ours named Bill and Jessica. They were friendly with Eleventh Dream Day, and they gave me their first record, which I loved. We played a show or two with them in the Midwest, and I became very friendly with them. To my amazement, they asked if I could help them out in the studio, and I jumped at the chance. I really like that record, and I had a great time working on it.\t<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> \u201cMaking it\u201d in rock \u2018n roll is still a massive crapshoot, I\u2019m sure. However, these days there\u2019s a much stronger infrastructure available to indie rock bands. Did any underground band but <strong>Del Fuegos<\/strong> cash in with a even a minor role in a national advertising campaign? Today, all sorts of unknown bands crop up in ads, play on the video monitors at <strong>Target<\/strong>, get songs in major motion pictures\u2026 Please explain to our younger readers what \u201csuccess\u201d might have meant to a band like Big Dipper in the late-80s. What roads to this notion of success might have been available to you?<\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> Well, I think we were successful in many ways. We toured Europe twice, North America many times. We put out a bunch of records and had a blast doing it until we made the poor choice to hook up with <strong>Epic<\/strong>. I think we would have been more successful if we had maintained the sort of priorities and focus that made <em>Heavens<\/em> such a great record. Maybe that would have resulted in a big, commercial pop record\u2026maybe that would have resulted in an avant-garde masterpiece. Maybe it would have been something in between. So I guess success would have meant making several more good records. <\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> How did the band wind down? Was it gradual, dramatic, the result of <strong>Yoko<\/strong>?<\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> I think it was gradual, although we never really recovered from the Epic experience. Steve left in July 1990, and Bill and I kept at it for another 2 years, after which I just couldn\u2019t take it anymore. Don\u2019t blame Yoko. She may have been able to help us.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> There\u2019s not a lot on Big Dipper on the Web. The great data dump seemed to pass you by. Rarely do I run into any indie rock fan younger than a certain middle age who knows of you. Your records are out of print. You meant a lot to me and some of my friends, but you seemed to get left out of the great data dump. What gives?<\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> I think more people are discovering us via <a href=\"http:\/\/profile.myspace.com\/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&amp;friendID=68752244\" title=\"http:\/\/profile.myspace.com\/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&amp;friendID=68752244\" target=\"_blank\">MySpace<\/a>. Tom Scharpling interviewed me a few weeks ago, and I\u2019ve heard from a few people since then who have told me that they\u2019re listening our music for the first time and really like it. I\u2019m working on a 3-cd anthology which should be out in March, and we\u2019re playing some shows, so I wouldn\u2019t say we\u2019ve been left to rot in the great tar pit of history.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> These days, you\u2019re Senior Producer for NPR\u2019s cool sports show, <strong><em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.onlyagame.org\/\" title=\"http:\/\/www.onlyagame.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">It&#8217;s Only a Game<\/a><\/em><\/strong>. I assume you\u2019ve got a taste for sports and competition. Did you ever find yourself taking a competitive approach to your music, to whatever band you\u2019d be sharing the stage with, and so forth? Some of my non-sports-loving musician friends stare at me blankly if I mention any relationship I\u2019ve felt between sports and music.<\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> Competitive? No, but I do think there\u2019s a similarity between what I do know and what I used to do. Thankfully, <em>Only A Game<\/em> is a unique program. I think Big Dipper was a unique band. So I\u2019m lucky to have worked on unique creative projects for over 20 years. <\/p>\n<p><strong>RTH:<\/strong> What are you up to musically these days? I see you\u2019ve done some recordings as <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/profile.myspace.com\/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&amp;friendID=114945899\" title=\"http:\/\/profile.myspace.com\/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&amp;friendID=114945899\" target=\"_blank\">grimspex<\/a><\/strong> with <strong>Bob Beerman<\/strong> of Pell Mell. It\u2019s cool, repetitive instrumental stuff. Any plans to release a grimspex album? Anything else cooking?<\/p>\n<p><strong>GW:<\/strong> No plans for a grimspex release yet, although one tune is the theme for a new WBUR show called Radio Boston (http:\/\/www.radioboston.org\/). I\u2019ve been writing and recording songs with <strong>Bob Fay<\/strong> (ex-Sebadoh, Crush, Deluxx, and so on) as <strong>AMC Gremlin<\/strong>. I hope to do more of that with both of them, but they\u2019re family men, too. It\u2019s hard to get together. <\/p>\n<p><em>To conclude our chat, Gary agreed to take a seat on the bench and join in on some Dugout Chatter&#8230;<\/em><\/p>\n<p><ins><strong><big>Dugout Chatter: Gary Waleik Edition!<\/big><\/strong><\/ins><\/p>\n<div class=\"image_block\" style=\"text-align: center;\">\n<div><object type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" data=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/dugout400x400.swf\" width=\"400\" height=\"400\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.rocktownhall.com\/dugout400x400.swf\" \/><\/object><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>What guitar would you least want to be caught dead playing?<\/strong><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.gguitars.com\/images\/pa050727\/pa050727a.jpg\" title=\"http:\/\/www.gguitars.com\/images\/pa050727\/pa050727a.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">Parker NightFly<\/a>. Just hideous and unnecessary.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bill Goffrier: Painter, Rocker, or Fashion Plate?<\/strong><br \/>\nAll three! Add swingin\u2019 single to that list, too!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Pete Shelley or Steve Diggle?<\/strong><br \/>\nOuch! Tough one\u2026I love them both. I mean, what would Diggle\u2019s \u201cRunning Free\u201d be without Shelley\u2019s \u201cYou know there\u2019s no time\u201d refrain? What would Shelley\u2019s \u201cYou Say You Don\u2019t Love Me\u201d be without Diggle\u2019s roaring guitar? I love them together, so <a href=\"http:\/\/www.trussel.com\/maig\/posters\/copout1.jpg\" title=\"http:\/\/www.trussel.com\/maig\/posters\/copout1.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">I\u2019ll courteously abstain from answering that one<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p><strong>What\u2019s a song or band you love that might surprise even your old friends and bandmates?<\/strong><br \/>\nI love Chic. Yes, the disco band. I just love \u2018em, especially the songs \u201cLe Freak\u201d and \u201cGood Times\u201d. I love a lot of Ringo\u2019s solo material, too, especially from the lp cleverly named \u201cRingo\u201d. Count me as a Ringo guy. <\/p>\n<p><strong>Who\u2019s the better rocker, Peter Gammons or Theo Epstein?<\/strong><br \/>\nI haven\u2019t heard nor seen either, but I hear Gammons can <em>shred<\/em>. Theo seems like a Seattle  scene wannabe, like his pal Bronson Arroyo, which is not my bag at all (with no disrespect intended to our fine musical friends Young Fresh Fellows or anyone else). So I\u2019ll give it to Gammons. Plus, he\u2019s been on my show, and Theo hasn\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What production touch most readily turns you off?<\/strong><br \/>\nI hate cheesy \u201880\u2019s keyboards and too much reverb.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Do you agree with me that the film <em>Almost Famous<\/em> is the most cloying of all rock films? Is rock \u2018n roll ever that sweet?<\/strong><br \/>\nUmmm\u2026I haven\u2019t seen it. I\u2019ll blame parenthood on that one. 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