Summer: Live in the '70s
By mwall on Aug 14, 2009
It's been a little more than a year since this post first appeared and guess what: summer's still here and summer concert tours are still going strong. That means a new crop of live albums is a-brewin' - and what better Friday Flashback to set up our next Hear Factor collection, Live, Scratchy Vinyl (coming Saturday, 8/15/09). Without further ado, let's send Mad Props in the direction of Townsman Mwall, and let's get it on!
This post initially appeared 8/3/08.

It’s late summer now. I don’t know about you, but sitting outside on a summer night, for me not much is better than pointing the speakers out the window and playing some long live double album that during the regular year I’d have no time or patience for.
The '70s were the best decade for live rock albums, and certainly the best decade for live rock albums you’d want to play outside on summer nights. It was the Era of the Live Album. There are lots of reasons why.
Follow up:
Let’s face it: as legendary and notorious as shows like Woodstock and Altamont are, they also show that the '60s was not quite ready for live outdoor rock. People got too intense, couldn’t control themselves, thought the world was ending or changing, shit like that. Of course while it did change, it didn’t change in the way anybody at a '60s outdoor rock show wanted. No, the '60s outdoor rock show flounders on its own self-importance. Sitting in the mud fer chrissakes. Who really thinks that’s fun even if you believe it’s going to change the world? You’d have to be on drugs or something.
The 80s, of course, reacted against the idea of the '70s summer rock show and the double live album. The 80s rock show wants to be indoors and captured on a single disc. It may even add some (now dated) technology just to prove that it’s happening indoors. The '80s live rock audience is uptight, either too angry or too professional or both, “fuck the outdoors” written all over their pale faces as they crash around for a few short minutes and go home ready to be uptight again the next day. And while it’s arguable that the late '90s returned to the idea of the outdoor rock show with Lollapalooza and so on, did it really do so well on the issue of the live rock album? Are there any classic live rock CDs of the '90s? A few maybe, but they don’t hold a candle to the original classics of the genre. As for the oughts, what do I know? Show me the money and maybe I’ll change my mind.
The '70s live album has its own definite aesthetic. It has to be a double album or it’s not really a live album at all. The '70s live album needs time to get where it’s going. It has to be a little loose and a lot expansive. You’re hearing it outside, under the stars, drinking whatever crappy beer you drank in the '70s and taking whatever else you were taking and, if you’re lucky, groping someone under loose summer clothes. It doesn’t make sense to pay attention to the album too constantly. No hands in pockets, “hmm, great bass parts” need apply. The music has to rock hard sometimes, in an earthy way, but at moments it also has to float away transcendently. It has to embrace the grandness. You’re not here simply to listen, but to be. Oddly enough, the great '70s summer live rock album doesn’t automatically have to have been made outside or in the summer. It just needs to feel like it’s outside in the summer.
I don’t think it’s accidental that some of the best examples of the '70s live album are by southern bands, or that the Allmans, working on the cusp of the '60s and '70s, defined the genre’s possibilities. The south knows that it’s possible to kick back and rock out simultaneously. Little Feat’s Waiting for Columbus-–I know “they’re an L.A. band,” but L.A. knows about summer live--is loose and rambling in just the right southern way for the occasion. By reputation the album is not the group “at their best,” but who really cares about that on a summer night?
There are some bands and albums that surprisingly don’t quite make the cut in this aesthetic. Get Your Ya-Ya’s Out is a little '70s but not '70s enough, and later '70s Stones official live releases are dreck. Maybe the 1978 Stones bootleg Handsome Girls, recorded partly at summer shows in Texas, does make the cut though. Then there are bands that surprisingly do make the cut. Who ever would have thought that The Band would participate in making two of the great albums of this kind, indoors or not, Before The Flood and The Last Waltz? The Band knew that in the '70s, the people needed to breathe, not just to listen. Van Morrison’s It’s Too Late To Stop Now knows all about what makes a great '70s summer live album. And interestingly, while Zeppelin botched it with their live album actually released in the '70s, the 2003 release The Way The West Was Won gives you three CDs of summer live, and it’s from L.A. in late June '72. I think the people understood.
I also don’t think it’s accidental that some music that I would never otherwise listen to take on a kind of emotional power at this time of year. Frampton Comes Alive!: a record that only becomes acceptable in the summer '70s rock aesthetic. Listen to that album indoors or in the winter and you’re a loser. Similarly, while I myself never actually ever play any Grateful Dead, even in the summer, it’s in the context of the '70s summer live feeling that I can get closest to what the Dead were all about. Given the right, uh, attitude adjustments, I think I could have had fun at some of those shows. It’s not all about the music, maaaan. It’s about how the music helps you open up in the open air for at least a few moments in your stuck-in-little-rooms-indoors life.
So go ahead, mock these albums for their lack of precision. Say they would be better if they featured 10-12 songs and a total length of 36 minutes. But don’t expect me to listen. I’m going outside, where the world is, and for a few hours let the sound wash over me. Don’t bogart the music, friends.
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Your thoughts?
HVB
The records you mention are all ones I like, but I agree that they're not about summer. Maybe we need a follow-up post: 70s Live Roadtrip. The records you mention are the kind I think need to be played end-to-end, but usually in the car. Live and Dangerous especially needs to be heard in its entirety, and in the car, so that you can hear just how kick ass the guitars become at the end. The 2-CD version of Cheap Trick's live record is just loose enough to start to seem summery, I would say, much more so than the original record.
Mac, I like the Beach Boys just enough to think that the 30-song compilation CD I have of theirs is great (thanks to the Mod for underlining this important word) and that Pet Sounds is good enough for more wussy, petulant moods. Given that, would I like "In Concert"? Or is it only for the truly convinced?
Steve, I always forget about Rock of Ages because I bought it at the time it was packaged as two single records. I don't mind adding it to the list. The Band is just a little more tight ass there, though, but the twang makes it 70s summer enough for me.
I was surprised it still sounded good a few years back, I especially like the extended instrumental parts, like "Great White Buffalo". Its a shame he has spent so much time ratcheting up the jackass side of his personality in recent years.
This is an odd era for the Beach Boys. Their albums are not doing great and you have a couple really bad attempts, but they are at the height of their ability to play live shows.
If you look at the set list, you will notice many of the songs you already like off of the greatest hits or Pet Sounds (the last 7 of twenty are all "oldies but moldies" as Mike Love says.
What is great though is that you have a band that is well past its prime in putting out really solid albums (Surf's Up in 71 is probably the last great attempt), but instead of touring on their laurels and just playing "the hits" as they originally sounded (as Mike Love does now), they become in essence a loose fun loving live band who really knows how to jam out.
The one thing that I miss is Brian's vocals, but Carl does a great job and the hired guns they brought in along with the addition of Blondie Chaplin and Ricky Fatar of the Carl Wilson produced band, The Flames, give the band a really full live sound.
When a friend asks to hear some later good Beach Boys, this is usually they album I recommend, and I have yet for someone to not like the album.
I'll check out that album, Mac, if I can find it at the right price--thanks.
In the case of Frampton, Comes Alive made his entire career. And Budokan cemented Cheap Tricks.
Some thoughts.
Does the live album in question have to be recorded in the summer as well? While I agree with BigSteve that Rock of Ages is far and away the best of the Band live albums, it was also recorded during a New Year's Eve show. Does that disqualify it?
Does The Who's Live at Leeds belong here, either the original or subsequent extended issues?
Cheap Trick's At Budokan sounds summery to me, as do all their great '70s albums.
Kiss Alive.
The back cover says alot.
I can't help it.
TB
PS--I agree that In Concert is a cool live record.
I'd be interested in your take on why we're never going to see a live album era again. I have some ideas, myself. First, it was out of style for a long time. Second, there's something vaguely anti-corporate about it, at least in comparison to many of today's canned mainstream pop rock shows: we're not talking live shows here in which the songs "sound exactly like they do on the record" or rely, you know, on banks of TV screens etc. But why hasn't the live album made more of a comeback in the indie or alt-rock universe? Too expensive? Won't sell enough copies? Maybe it has come back at times and I just don't know? Nirvana's Wabash album is only so-so. Spiritualized did two CDs of Live at Royal Albert Hall that's really pretty good, although the songs aren't quite different enough from the original studio versions to break free into the open air. But then again, they're an indoor band if there ever was one. Feeling the breeze on your skin while on heroin is unpleasant, I hear.
Oats, if you'll read my post again, you'll see that I answered the question about when a 70s Summer Live album has to have been recorded. Are there any good sounding versions of Rock of Ages? I may need to replace that record. My version, from the time when the album was split into two individual records, has always sounded tinny to me. I think the expanded Live at Leeds almost does the trick. The whole "live rock opera" or "live rock suite" (a less than full concert version of same) sits uncomfortably as 70s Summer Live because it seems maybe overly canned, but ultimately extended bombast is an acceptable replacement for a lack of spontaneous playing--and there's enough stretching out on some tunes on Leeds to make it work here.
LatelyDavid, you're the second person to speak up for "Kiss Alive," and I'm down with that and I think others are too. As long as you're not playing Frampton Comes Alive! on a cold February night and singing along wistfully to the guitar in the dark, I don't think anyone here is going to laugh.
Andyr, admitting sour grapes, nonetheless brings up a great question that would define another thread about live music sometimes: those controversial "is it really a live album?" live albums.
I also, of course, think that the double live LP of years gone by was basically a greatest hits package in disguise -- and those probably don't represent as great a music buying opportunity in the age of the 99 cent per-song download.
1) Nobody's buying new music as it is. Record industry types probably assume no one's going to buy live versions of songs are selling poorly in their studio guise.
2) Until recently, hip-hop dominated the industry and, in general, it's not thought of as a genre of music that's best heard live in concert.
But most importantly,
3) Live "albums" have become the province of die-hards. Live bootleg recordings are easier than ever to acquire from the internet. Lots of bands stream live shows on their official websites, or on a site/podcast like NPR's All Songs Considered. Some bands, such as Pearl Jam release every live show from a tour, also usually an online deal. In other words, live recordings are out there, but if you're interested you have to seek them out. They don't get promoted really.
How about the Ramones' It's Alive? I kinda wish that Sire put it out here in the U.S. It would have been their career maker like Budokan was for Cheap Trick.
I'm going to get The Beach Boys In Concert. It sounds interesting.
"Aren't you all high yet? When will it end?! Jeez -- you've got to be the highest audience in the world. These kids are getting quite an education. Seriously -- it's like a bonfire? Pretty much, yeah?"
I've seen those endless Pearl Jam live CDs around. They're not usually cheap. And of course the flood of them makes them all equally insignificant. Is any one better than the others? How would anybody even know?
Maybe the Paul Westerberg idea could work here. A whole live show on one mp3? But there'd still be a flood of them.
That Wilco outdoor show sounds like a good listen, Oats. Wilco's got quite a bit of 70s in them, don't you think?
One for the Road definitely counts, ojoe. The issue isn't so much when a record was released as when it was recorded or what era of music it covers, and that record is a good accounting of the later 70s Kinks. Besides, 1980 was still the 70s. By 1981 though, especially if you lived in DC like I did, it was like the 70s suddenly never existed.
And I just want to point out that I might actually have been at the Allman Bros. gig pictured at the top of the thread. It vaguely looks like the area on the other side of the batture from Audubon Park in New Orleans where the band used to play leisurely Saturday or Sunday afternoon gigs at the dawn of the 70s when they were playing in town later that night. Can you imagine anyone doing that nowadays?
The '70s ushered in an era of the freeform "jam" that is now largely missing. Extended guitar solos using violin bows, 20 minute drum solos, The Grateful Dead... I don't sense that people are craving that kind of thing that much anymore and if they do they hunt down bootlegs.
Which brings me to another theory that boolegs are so easy to make and distribute now that finding live stuff of your favorite current band is probably pretty simple. I'm supposing here.
I've seen those endless Pearl Jam live CDs around. They're not usually cheap. And of course the flood of them makes them all equally insignificant. Is any one better than the others? How would anybody even know?
Yeah, I guess that's what message boards are for. Even so, they have a pretty die-hard fan base who, I guess, want every show of a tour regardless.
Oats. Wilco's got quite a bit of 70s in them, don't you think?
Definitely. A good percentage of it is located in Tweedy's beard.
http://flickr.com/photos/bouche/194264830/
Sorta related to this thread: Here's an interesting appreciation of the Grateful Dead in Pitchfork, of all places.
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/142672-column-resonant-frequency-59
Also, one reason for the decline in live albums might be the evolution in rock economics. In the old days you toured to promote your albums, which you could actually make money by selling. Nowadays most artists' bread and butter is touring income, so live albums might be seen as self-defeating.
When they started touring in the new expanded line-up with Nels Cline, the internet was full of downloadable Wilco concerts. I scored a couple that I thought were mindblowing, but then I was kind of let down by the official double live album they released, and I dutifully bought, called Kicking Television.
Sloan's "4 Nights at the Palais Royale" is pretty great. That came out in '99 and although not outdoors follows in the same tradition of 70's live double albums.
The Eels consistently release live albums as well. "Eels With Strings: Live at Town Hall" and "Oh What a Beautiful Morning" are the best I think. Both live albums sport quite a lot of alternate instrumentation. The Chet's drum kit in "Live at Town Hall" is pretty crazy.
And of course, one of my favorite live double albums is Blur's "Live at the Budokan."
But I think the biggest reason for there being less live albums are live shows on DVD.
Also, has anyone else bought Wire's "Wire on the Box." It is from a taping for a show called Rockpalast in Germany. Its pretty great, and there are some versions of songs off "154" which are better on this live album then the studio I think.
How about "Live Bullet" - The Seeg
Spirited defense from Mac on the idea that the double live CD concept isn't dead yet. Sloan bores me, but I'm open to having my mind changed. Any other proponents of the idea that news about the death of the live album has been greatly exaggerated?
When they started touring in the new expanded line-up with Nels Cline, the internet was full of downloadable Wilco concerts. I scored a couple that I thought were mindblowing, but then I was kind of let down by the official double live album they released, and I dutifully bought, called Kicking Television.
It's not perfect, but the versions of "Handshake Drugs" and "Spiders" on there are amazing. In fact, I think Kicking Television renders A Ghost is Born virtually unnecessary.
My own favorite live records are Live At Leeds, Live at the Roxy and Elsewhere (Zappa) and the track "Providence" from King Crimson's great album Red. The track, which I never knew was live, was so named because it was a jam recorded in Providence, RI. As sheer fun, though, you have to check out Uriah Heep's live record. Rock. Very funny and rock. Also love that early Allman Brothers live in where was it? Atlanta or some such?
O crap! I almost forgot, not a party jammy record, but one of the finest live documents of anything ever, is Lou's Take No Prisoners. Binaural, yet. Vu's 1969 (save it Mod, I know!) is also in my pantheon.
CDs eliminated the joy of getting a live double album on a gatefold sleeve. Let's face it, a big role the live album would play in the '70s was for getting psyched up for the actual live show you were about to attend. What better way to prepare for the big show than to listen to a live album by that band AND use the gatefold for cleaning purposes?
I still remember when ELO was caught using prepared tapes onstage - I think it was when Out of the Blue came out (a late '70s album with "Turn to Stone", right?). The story was SCANDALOUS! Live shows were automatically cheapened, and live albums as a result were also suspect. It was one thing for Thin Lizzy and others to overdub parts that had been performed live, but now you're telling me that bands aren't even playing completely live in the first place? Not too long after this ELO scandal, Pink Floyd used an entire "mirror" band to play some of The Wall live, right? Today you've got all sorts of bands "faking" it onstage. Bands that actually do put out and experiment live don't have the sort of audience to support a double live album. What chick in a tube top on her guy's shoulders has ever been caught flashing her breasts at a Wilco concert? Pere Ubu put out a few, cool, purposefully humble (in the old VU tradition) live albums, but they too are not close to pulling in that tube top crowd.
What chick in a tube top on her guy's shoulders has ever been caught flashing her breasts at a Wilco concert?
Actually, I witnessed this very event at a Wilco show at the Troc during the Being There tour. Go figure. Though I guess that was early on during their Jay Bennett rawk phase. You probably would not see that kind of thing in their current 70's soft-rock worship phase.
Kick out the Jams
The Jimi Hendrix Concerts
Humble Pie at the Fillmore
That Live Nirvana stuff is blistering, though the sentiment expressed in the songs hasn't really stood the test of time well, and they were so unwilling to mach shau.
I thought, for a brief, shimmering moment, that Monster Magnet and Fu Manchu were going to bring the Live Album Era back, but it never really happened. What GREAT live bands they were...so BIG in their approach.
Supagroup
Upper Crust
Unknown Hinson (winner of the 2008 Hrrundi V. Bakshi "Man, I Wasn't Expecting THAT" Gold Star for Ass-Kicking Unbelievable Amazingness)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LJf9fYM8-s&NR=1
The only downside is that, although it was a double album and it had a cool cover, the cover didn’t open up, rendering it completely useless as a weed cleaning apparatus.
I don’t think anyone has mentioned One From The Road by Lynyrd Skynyrd. Great live album. Also, not only did the cover have a gatefold making it much more suitable for separating the wheat from the chaff, so to speak, but one of the pictures in the gatefold collage was a joint! Cool! (To be fair, the “joint” might have actually been a french fry. My brother and I could never quite determine which it was despite a rather thorough examination).
As I alluded earlier, I finally found a gateway to the Dead, via this link to a live show on Arthur Magazine's blog. While I think the writer of this post oversells the music a bit, I do enjoy it. Very summery.
http://www.arthurmag.com/2009/08/06/heavy-primal-dead-from-october-12-1968/
That's a nice piece of early Dead, it gives the idea of the fire that they had in their most extremely psychedelic phase. I just plopped into That's it for the Other One and it's really relentless. I intend to give the whole thing a listen tomorrow.
Glad to hear you liked what you've heard so far. I'm curious to hear any further thoughts you (or anyone else) may have. I'm giving it another listen now -- despite the relentless moments and the ending, seven-minute "Feedback," I'm still not convinced there really is a side of the Dead that sounds like Sonic Youth or other noisy indie rockers. (It's comparison points like this that keep me curious about the band.) But I'm keeping my ears open.
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