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chickenfrank on Showdown: Goats Head Soup vs Some Girls
Stopped by to see/ask if anyone is excited about My Life as a Rolling Stone coming out soon. It's a BBC docuseries that I'm guessing arose because Get Back was so huge. Looks like it will stream on EPIX. Guess if they don't have a free weekly trial, I won't see it! Wonder if it will be interesting, or mostly Jagger propaganda. Maybe they will address the Some Girls vs. Goat Head's Soup showdown. Probably.
chickenfrank on All Star Jam!
Hey VW, Nice to have some fresh fish in the Hall! There always seems to be more love for Lowell George here than I see elsewhere, and the appropriate amount of disdain for Dave Matthews. I don't mind John Mayer myself. From the little I've seen or heard, he's a terrific guitar player. I guess you are including him in your bad band cause he's just such a douche. Fair. The hall can be empty for a while, but people do check in from time to time still.
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1. What do you think of this performance of “Let My Love Open the Door?” Do you have any comments on the song, the performance, the fashion choices or anything else? I like the whole Klaus Nomi thing Pete had going back then. For 15 minutes he looked up to date among the early 80’s crop of new romantics, although Bowie and Bryan Ferry pulled the look off better. The ubiquitous Phil Collins on drums. 

 2. You’ve been given the opportunity to form a band for your favorite underrated songwriter or singer/front-person. Who is the “star” and who is in the band? You want to put together a surprising yet appropriate group. What unlikely or never-considered musical collaboration would you put together? I’m in a deep-fried southern soul kind of mood today, so either Lowell George or Kelly Holland out in front, Duane Allman and Allen Collins on guitars, Danko and Helm holding down the rhythm section. Occasionally featuring Wayne Jackson and Andrew Love. No keyboards. 

 3. Uh-oh, your favorite underrated songwriter turned out to be difficult to work with! You’ve decided to scrap that band and put together the worst possible band, just to be creatively vengeful. Who is in this band now? Dave Matthews, John Mayer, Neil Peart, Glenn Frey, Anthony Kiedis and Eddie Vedder. I don’t care who plays what.

 4. Have you ever been to a show headlined by a known artist (ie not a “local” band) where the audience cleared out? Who was the artist and why did everyone leave? No, not really. It always astounds me when people bail before the encore though. Miss all kinds of good stuff.

 5. What is the best guitar solo in the Beatles catalog? I like Clapton on “While My Guitar Gently Weeps”, George on “Something” and Paul on “Taxman”. In that order.

 6. Do accordions belong in rock music? Sure, depending on the context. Clifton Chenier and Flaco Jimenez can be in my band anytime.

 7. Odd meters (talking songs in 5, 7, etc): are they pretentious? Do you have a favorite song in an odd meter? I like a lot of prog, so weird time signatures and pretense don’t bother me. Something off of Apostrophe would probably get my vote.

 8. What have you been listening to lately? Have you found any interesting music that is new or new to you? I’ve been listening to the most recent releases from Sarah Borges, Margo Price and Crystal Thomas, all three of which I like a lot. There’s a cat named Riley Downing who reminds me of J.J. Cale - just discovered him, as well as a guitar virtuoso named Christie Lenee, who has a major Michael Hedges thing going that I think is just brilliant.
vw on RTH Talent Show
I just discovered this site today. Don't bail on me now.
H. MunsterH. Munster on Last Man Standing: Songs That Mention The Beatles
"1500 Miles Through the Eyes of A Beatle" by The Frost Worth a listen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8gt5DirTBQ
Mr. ModeratorMr. Moderator on All Star Jam!
I think I've heard the name Rammstein, but I wouldn't have known if it was a band, a German New Wave film director, or a sex toy. Rammstein playing Lincoln Financial Field may explain why Rock Town Hall has run it's course.
al on All Star Jam!
Imagine the Rammstein and Insane Clown Posse versions of this: https://pop-sesivo.tumblr.com/post/661600845183500288/bands-reimagined-as-hanna-barbera-cartoons
al on All Star Jam!
What he said. Insane Clown Posse? Rammstein? They are just names to me. But then I don't know why people go to EDM concerts either. I may be the only person who, when he sees the name Rammstein, thinks of Dan Bern. Bern has a fairly low profile but has been around for quite awhile. A combination of Bob Dylan and Loudon Wainwright. There was a time i followed him pretty closely but that was back probably 15 or so years ago. Anyway, as some point he began referring to himself as Bernstein - no idea why - and so when I see Rammstein i think Bernstein.
chickenfrank on All Star Jam!
Probably none of us own an album, but probably all of us have heard of Rammstein. Not many other bands in whatever genre they call themselves can say that. Seems similar to the status that Insane Clown Posse has. It's always a shock to see how popular they are without being a popular band.
geo on All Star Jam!
Thank you all for indulging my off-blog plea. Really does anyone on here know anyone that actually has a Rammstein record? WTF?
al on All Star Jam!
Similar sort of thing, i.e., I'm getting old. I get emails from a place like deepdiscount or Newbury Comics or I see an ad in Shindig magazine and there will be a whole page of albums being advertised and not only am I unfamiliar with all of the artists it often happens where I couldn't tell you which is the artist and which is the album title. Not just on one title but all 8 or 10 or 12 that are there. On the plus side, it makes any buying decision easy.
chickenfrank on All Star Jam!
They looking for an opener??
cdmcdm on All Star Jam!
Seriously? That's bizarre. And it sounds like a terrible night out.
cdmcdm on Showdown: Goats Head Soup vs Some Girls
I saw the Stones in 2019 so not too long ago, and they caught me off guard with how good they were. The only other time I'd seen them was in 1989 and the 2019 show was much much better. Of course, I'd like to write the set list because I could really do without hearing Start Me Up, Can't Always Get What You Want, and Satisfaction again (all great songs that have just worn out their welcome through repetition), but even those songs sounded somewhat fresh.
geo on All Star Jam!
Rammstein is playing our local NFL Stadium, Lincoln Financial Field. How is that possible? And how is it possible that I would've thought they'd be at a venue the size of Underground Arts?
al on Showdown: Goats Head Soup vs Some Girls
What tier would you put the Stones on tour in 2022? Fifth? Sixth? And is it higher or lower than McCartney on tour in 2022? Dylan? I watched some clips of the Stones show in Spain the other day. Mick, Keith, and Ron are energetic enough but they don't look real. Ditto Paul. And i don't know what I think of the duet with John, courtesy of Peter Jackson, on I Got A Feeling. The cynic thinks it's a little too cute. The fan loves it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l45fa7N0IP8 And Bob, well, bless him for doing exactly what he wants - and probably no fan wants - on tour but thanks, but no thanks.
cdmcdm on Showdown: Goats Head Soup vs Some Girls
GHS is mid tier Stones for me but still worth an occasional visit.. Some clunkers on there for sure, like Dancing with Mr D, which always struck me as Mick unsuccessfully trying to mine the same territory and Midnight Ramble, Sympathy, and Memo from Turner. As scary as a flaccid wiener. But I actually like (not love!) Angie. Heartbreaker is great, Silver Train is a bit redundant but I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff so I love it. And my son spent so much time trolling me with 100 Years Ago because I tld him that I cringe when Mick starts singing about "Lazybones" that I've learned to ignore that phrase and enjoy the rest of what I consider to be an otherwise excellent song. Throw in Star Star and you have an album with at least five songs worth hearing with varying degrees of regularity. That's not too shabby. Second tier Stones would be stuff like Some Girls, England's Newest Hitmakers, and Between the Buttons. First tier is Beggars, Let it Bleed, Ya Yas, Sticky Fingers, and the Greatest Record of All Time: Exile.
markodarryl1958 on Showdown: Goats Head Soup vs Some Girls
Continued "From Goat's Head Soup to Some Girls" Now 49 years later I bought the 2020 two-disk reissue and still love it. My favorite track is the scandalous STAR STAR with her obscene Polaroids and her tricks with fruit, Ali McGraw and Steve McQueen, New York City, L.A. maybe even old John Wayne made it with this rock groupie before he died. But I digress. The real draw of STAR STAR is the blistering guitar work of Keith Richards and Mick Taylor (a la Chuck Berry) the band of Bill, Charlie, with Ian Stewart on piano and Mick Jagger's vocals drive it hard and harder till the fadeout. Keith took the lead from the first licks to the last, with Mick Taylor providing a masterful rhythm guitar track that allows Keith to shine in his most comfortable rock & roll role, the riff-master, every lick he ever played ripped off from Mr. Berry. The reissue is great! So to let it be on the record, top tier are Beggar's Banquet, Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers and Exile On Main Street. Goats Head Soup is next tier along with It's Only Rock & Roll, Black & Blue and Some Girls, but that's another chapter. -
markodarryl1958 on Showdown: Goats Head Soup vs Some Girls
Last Post: September 7, 2007 15 years ago people cared about The Rolling Stones with a passion. They debated albums that were already 30 to 35 years old. I am now going to share my thoughts titled "From Goat's Head Soup to Some Girls (The Decline & Fall of The Rolling Stones)." I was 15 in 1973 and bought my first real album, Goats' Head Soup by The Rolling Stones. I loved Silver Train and Star Star of course, still do. Coming Down Again is a pretty song with ugly lyrics. Angie is so out of character for the band that it works. I also love the horns on Heartbreaker and the lead guitar (of soon to quit Mick Taylor) on Hide Your Love and Winter.
geo on RTH Talent Show
After going through one VERY LOUD song at soundcheck, I asked the soundguy if there were drums and guitars in the drummer's monitor, because we were getting this giant blasting quadraphonic version of ourselves in addition to what we normally hear in our not too quiet rehearsals. "Oh yeah, it's all pushed cause you said you couldn't hear instruments in the monitor." I said, "No, I said we didn't need any instruments in the monitors." Oh. It got a little better, but still.
Mr. ModeratorMr. Moderator on RTH Talent Show
Hey, I remember this place! Sorry I've been away. The show went well. We were represented by Townspeople in all 4 bands. Everyone delivered. The crowd was good. It was super loud onstage, though - the soundman had the monitors cranked louder than the sound out to the audience. I had a serious scare regarding my hearing that cleared up a couple of days later. Yikes! It was also really sweaty in the club. I would be a world champion in sweating if there were competitive events for that, but I think I set a new personal best that night.
chickenfrank on RTH Talent Show
Yeah, what's with the Fire Lady? She's a bit irascible as they say at the spelling bee.
BigSteveBigSteve on RTH Talent Show
The anticipation is unbearable, so I thought I'd hurry things along.
garlic saltgarlic salt on RTH Talent Show
I'm very excited to play it (provided we don't get rejected by the fire lady). Also chickenfrank don't worry, I've been promoting it extensively on Truth using my network of Russian bots.
cdmcdm on RTH Talent Show
Big Steve, it didn't happen yet. It's on 3/19. I'll see if I can get the Mod to set his phone on a tripod near the sound board and Facetime Live stream it.
BigSteveBigSteve on RTH Talent Show
How did it go?
chickenfrank on RTH Talent Show
I get most of my social media from Trump's Truth Social app now, but that doesn't seem to be promoting the show yet. Glad to find it here.
Scott (the other one)Scott (the other one) on RTH Talent Show
I'll be there! (Not really--according to GPS, it's 2,862 miles from here, and I'm afraid that's 193 out of my range. But kick all kinds of ass!)
geo on RTH Talent Show
Oh, and do be there at 8:00.
geo on RTH Talent Show
As mentioned, I will be there. and now that I understand Garlicsalt will be involved in the last act, beginning to end. Oh Boy!
geo on All Star Jam!
Checked out the Florry. I wouldn't recommend them if you're particular about on key vocals, (I'm not and I found the two-part disharmony, I think mostly on the guitar player singer to be appealing), but hang in for her guitar solo which is very good. She would work as the righteous rock guitar player in the aforementioned cowpunk band
cdmcdm on All Star Jam!
Garlic Salt, I'd love to see that cowpunk band although I think you need a sloppy but righteous rock guitar player for lead. Maybe someone like Westerburg or Steve Jones. Cool recommendations: US Paul Kelly from Al and Heatloaf from Garlic Salt.
chickenfrank on All Star Jam!
I'M not the resident youngin'?? Now I feel basic and random. 8. Appreciate the local recommendations. Checking them all out now.
garlic saltgarlic salt on All Star Jam!
As the resident youngin’ I was really just excited to answer the last part of this question, but I’m going to answer the rest of them as well. 1. I have similar opinions to others. I think it’s a little overdone and tacky. I enjoy me a good tele but other than that not much to love for me. 2. My ultimate band is going to be a backing band for Art Alekasis in an attempt to force him back to his cowpunk roots. This will consist of Country Dick Montana from the Beat Farmers on Drums (and backup vocals), Gram Parsons on guitar, and Murray Hammond from the Old 97s on bass. 3. Alright, now to mess it up. I’m going to put Adam Duritz on guitar and backup vocals because I think there’s no way he won’t try and take center stage, Neil Peart to ruin the country sound, and Thundercat on bass because that is essentially having another lead guitar. 4. Honestly, I haven’t been to many big shows lately, mainly because I find that I enjoy local bands and smaller shows more than the big ones, so I’m going to have to skip. 5. The best guitar solo in the Beatles catalogue is Dig A Pony for me. But I don’t listen to much Beatles so that’s probably not the best. 6. Yes. Wholeheartedly. Almost every instrument belongs in rock music in some context or another. 7. I enjoy them when used tastefully. It can be excessive or overused but when it sounds good it can sound really good. 8. Alright here’s my short list of local Philly bands I think people should really check out, along with a short descriptor. I’m trying to limit it to people I’ve seen in a basement. Gloss: funky r&b indie group (listen to Play Myself Again), Attack Dog: punk, interesting production since it’s all done by one dude in GarageBand (listen to Young Lion), Heatloaf: indie, has really interesting harmonies (listen to: shoulder to die on). Finally, this is the best band I’ve seen in the past while, Florry. They a fantastic band with a rather large amount of people. When I saw them they had a guy play lap steel but I’m pretty sure they have a pedal steel player now. Check out this video of them playing at PhilaMOCA. Skip to 16:37 for my personal fav song. https://youtu.be/UZ6M86ylBXk?t=997
geo on All Star Jam!
I really like that Dalton album but understand that the voice can be as much of a turn off for some as it is a turn on for others. The Harvey Brooks production on that record is really cool. For example, he plays a really busy, complex line on "In a Station" but also can strip the bass down to a primitive repetitive droney line that sounds like a gifted post-punk beginner (think Wobble) for "Something on Your Mind." There's a recently released straight style outtake of SOYM that sounds like it might be the exact same vocal take with a very standard country rock feel arrangement. There's no way that that version would have had the impact of the original which has landed in a million soundtracks. That change let the backing match the otherworldliness of the vocal.
BigSteveBigSteve on All Star Jam!
I knew Geoff Muldaur name mainly because he had sung harmony with John Cale on Guts and Darling I Need You on the Slow Dazzle album. I enjoyed the Geoff/Maria duo albums, but they were basically unreconstructed folkies who never learned how to write songs. This is the exact opposite of Bobby Charles, who apparently never learned how to play even minimal guitar or piano. He would write the songs in his head, and somehow transmit them to musicians who had to work out the chords on their own. I'm still bowled over by that. I tried with Karen Dalton, but I just couldn't handle her voice at all. Reading about her backstory didn't help. When I read about this period nowadays, I often am amazed that anybody produced recordings of any value, given the amount of drugs and alcohol that were being consumed.
geo on All Star Jam!
Chiming in late with two comments. That Wet Leg thing was great. There was a live four song set on Youtube that maintained the quality standard. I saw they were touring in March, but after being booked in a small room, Philamoca, and moved up to a larger room, Underground Arts, the show was already sold out. road trip to New York or DC maybe? In the list of Woodstock of Woodstock related acts, BigSteve mentioned, Geoff and Maria Muldaur whose "Pottery Pie" album is excellent. He also neglected to mention Karen Dalton, whose "In My Own Time" album is arguably the best of the scene.
al on All Star Jam!
I keep thinking of ideas for threads and Geo keeps telling me "that's already been done". And it's likely they were done by me 😏
cdmcdm on All Star Jam!
I thought there was a Last Man Standing eons ago about people with the same name in different bands but it turns out it was just a side bar to the Songs with the Same Name thread.
BigSteveBigSteve on All Star Jam!
"Who can name two other artists with the same name?" Mick Jones -- Foreigner/Clash
al on All Star Jam!
Let me know when you have the Paul Kelly show as I'm another fan. I started with those same albums and bought a few others in the decade that followed but none grabbed me in the same way. Way way back in the early days of the pandemic in 2020 I bought a two disc best of as a way to catch up but that is still on the shelf unplayed and I'm still not caught up. When you do the show, make it a Robbie Fulks-type mash-up and do both Paul Kellys. Include the early '70s southern soul Paul Kelly. He did some really great stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Giia2Y_Jdc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMkq9VebrsQ He put out another album in the mid-'90s called Gonna Stick & Stay that was throwback great. This is a cut from that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZrzi7Z5mXI I like the southern hemisphere Paul Kelly just fine but i think the southern US Paul Kelly is my favorite. Who can name two other artists with the same name?
cdmcdm on All Star Jam!
"Phil Collins is playing like he should be wearing shorts. " Hahaha!
BigSteveBigSteve on All Star Jam!
8. What have you been listening to lately? Have you found any interesting music that is new or new to you? I've been reading Small Town Talk, Barney Hoskins' book about Woodstock NY and the music scene there radiating out from Albert Grossman. So I've been immersed in lots of that, stuff that I know (the expanded reissues of Stage Fright and Cahoots, early Van Morrison, late Hendrix, and especially Bobby Charles), plus lots of stuff I missed (Geoff and Maria Muldaur, Paul Butterfield, Todd Rundgren, Great Speckled Bird, early Bonnie Raitt, etc.). My favorite albums of last year were Prime Ribs by Sleaford Mods, Live in Paris by the Master Musicians of Jajouka, Fire by The Bug, and the album Floating Points made with Pharaoh Sanders titled Promises. For more recent releases, I like the new Caetano Veloso, Meu Coco, Ben LaMar Gay's Open Arms to Open Us, the recent Sunn O))) album, Metta-Benevolence, and former Tortoise guitarist Jeff Parker's album of solo jazz guitar, Forfolks.
BigSteveBigSteve on All Star Jam!
1. What do you think of this performance of “Let My Love Open the Door?” Do you have any comments on the song, the performance, the fashion choices or anything else? I'm a big fan of fretless bass (I own one myself) and especially of Mick Karn. The Tin Drum album is perfection, and I can't imagine it without his sound. I think his bass is mixed poorly in this song. Phil Collins is playing like he should be wearing shorts. Pete's eyes look like he woke up in a Soho doorway. 5. What is the best guitar solo in the Beatles catalog? Slow Down 6. Do accordions belong in rock music? Yes, especially if Garth Hudson is playing one. Zydeco is technically not Rock, but I had the pleasure of catching zydeco master Beau Jocque at Rock'n'Bowl in the early aughts, and it was about the most rocking thing I've ever seen. 7. Odd meters (talking songs in 5, 7, etc): are they pretentious? Do you have a favorite song in an odd meter? They're not always pretentious, but I'm kind of pro-pretension. King Crimson's Red is my favorite. It features an assortment of odd meters.
chickenfrank on All Star Jam!
Trigmo, I dug Chaise Lounge. It is enjoyable. The video helps carry the humor of the song too. Precious, but it works.
cdmcdm on All Star Jam!
Great to hear there is another Paul Kelly fan. I feel like we are few and far between in the US. I'm really familiar with Under the Sun, So Much water, and my entry point, Gossip. I have a few of his other albums though, including one he put out a few years ago. I've thought about putting a band together to do a one-off show at Fergie's or something but I only know one other person who would turn up for it.
chickenfrank on All Star Jam!
5. I think And Your Bird Can Sing harmony solos are actually done by George and Paul. Paul keeps moving up the Beatles Power Rankings. 8. I heard one new thing (for me at least) when listening to college radio in the car. The band is named Idles and the song was Grounds. It has a really strange post-punk sound and arrangement, and the singer's very pronounced English (Cockney?) accent is a treat. Small p political kind of lyrics. Is this a band everyone knows already and I'm just late to the party? There's a crappy video for the song too where the music starts 30 seconds in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRkUt9VnaR0
cdmcdm on All Star Jam!
Spot on, SLO!
SirLaurenceOblivious on All Star Jam!
1. Oh, and Pete Townshend looks like Fred Armisen doing an imitation of Pete Townshend.
trigmogigmotrigmogigmo on All Star Jam!
1. What do you think of this performance of “Let My Love Open the Door?” Do you have any comments on the song, the performance, the fashion choices or anything else? The performance is off-putting. Totally agree w/ cdm about the super annoying fretless bass. I have always liked this song, but this rendition is sub-par. It lacks the precision of the album track and Simon Philips’ drumming, although I wouldn’t really blame Phil Collins as this looks to be a hastily thrown together affair. Speaking of Phil, the Jimmy Buffett wardrobe does not work. (By the way, I learned at some point that the narrator of this song is supposed to be God rather than Pete. It's a little less charming now.) 

2. You’ve been given the opportunity to form a band for your favorite underrated songwriter or singer/front-person. Who is the “star” and who is in the band? You want to put together a surprising yet appropriate group. What unlikely or never-considered musical collaboration would you put together? Maybe I will take Matt Johnson of The The, and force him to front a power pop band comprised of Graham Maby on bass (Joe Jackson), a resurrected Bruce Gary on drums (The Knack), and Elliot Easton on guitar (The Cars).

 3. Uh-oh, your favorite underrated songwriter turned out to be difficult to work with! You’ve decided to scrap that band and put together the worst possible band, just to be creatively vengeful. Who is in this band now? Oh, Matt, you horrible person! Put down your guitar and rely on your new backing band: Don Henley on drums, Les Claypool on bass, and a resurrected Lou Reed on guitar.

 5. What is the best guitar solo in the Beatles catalog? GREAT choices by cdm and chickenfrank. The first thing that popped into my head was “Taxman”, but I feel bad that it’s apparently Paul playing. 

6. Do accordions belong in rock music? I cannot think of a good example but if it works, OK.

 7. Odd meters (talking songs in 5, 7, etc): are they pretentious? Do you have a favorite song in an odd meter? If they groove, they can be great! Trying to think of a good example. XTC’s “The Man Who Sailed Around His Soul” feels natural in 7/8. Led Zeppelin’s “Four Sticks” I think goes between 5/8 and 6/8 fairly easily. I find 5/4 can sometimes sound as natural as 4/4 but can’t think of an example other than one of my own tunes at the moment.

 I dig the 80's/90's-era King Crimson that throws in odd meters while still rocking, like the middle of "Three of a Perfect Pair", or "Elektrik". 8. What have you been listening to lately? Have you found any interesting music that is new or new to you? I stumbled upon a reference to a song “Chaise Lounge” by some group called “Wet Leg” and looked it up. Effectively catchy and simple. Is it too precious and stupid, or just enjoyable? https://youtu.be/Zd9jeJk2UHQ I am enthralled by the discovery of The Dirty Knobs’ “I Still Love You”. Wow! A colossal riff that is, I don’t know, Zeppelin-esque? and the rest of the guitar arrangement is so cool. https://youtu.be/wwBolUahbOI

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