Apr 292009
 

It’s been a slow week so far – or should I say a quiet week. What we need is a little Dugout Chatter! If you’ve yet to partake in Rock Town Hall’s occasional Dugout Chatter, it’s easy: you’re about to be presented with a handful of puzzling rock queries that require your gut response. Don’t think too hard. There are no wrong answers, although I’ll occasionally credit you for a right answer. Engage!

What’s the last concert t-shirt you remember buying?

Is there another undeniably great ’60s band other than The Who that never produced an original album in that decade (ie, not a hits collection) that a majority of even that band’s fans can agree on as being great?

Which rocker would you be most interested in reading a novel by, whether that rocker has ever authored a novel or not?

What favorite artist’s new Look was so distasteful to you upon first seeing it that you briefly questioned whether you should continue liking said artist’s music?

In these tough economic times, let’s say even The Boss has to do some belt-tightening and issue a layoff. If you’re The Boss, which member of The E-Street Band do you layoff and why?

Which novelist would you most be interested in hearing a rock ‘n roll record by, whether that novelist has ever recorded a record or not (and whether rock ‘n roll and records even existed when the novelist wrote)?

I look forward to your responses.

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  1. What’s the last concert t-shirt you remember buying?

    The Who (2006). Picture of Pete leaping.

    Is there another undeniably great ’60s band other than The Who that never produced an original album in that decade (ie, not a hits collection) that a majority of even that band’s fans can agree on as being great?

    I don’t think I understand the question. I keep repeating it to myself over and over and am drawing a blank. I feel stupid. Other than The Who? Does this mean a band that came into prominence after their 60s debuts? Like The Stones? Please expalin…

    Which rocker would you be most interested in reading a novel by, whether that rocker has ever authored a novel or not?

    Pete Townshend. Or Bob Dylan.

    What favorite artist’s new Look was so distasteful to you upon first seeing it that you briefly questioned whether you should continue liking said artist’s music?

    That Spector trial afro is pretty special. Made me rethink “Be My Baby”.

    In these tough economic times, let’s say even The Boss has to do some belt-tightening and issue a layoff. If you’re The Boss, which member of The E-Street Band do you layoff and why?

    Little Steven is gone. He can make okay on his on. Besides, how many guitarists does one need?

    Which novelist would you most be interested in hearing a rock ‘n roll record by, whether that novelist has ever recorded a record or not (and whether rock ‘n roll and records even existed when the novelist wrote)?

    Elmore Leonard.

    TB

  2. Mr. Moderator

    TB, I meant that, among bands that came to prominence in the ’60s, which bands beside The Who did so while not releasing an acknowledged CLASSIC album. For instance, the first two albums are kind of spotty. Not all Who fans really like The Who Sell Out. There’s always been a Tommy backlash. I don’t know that The Who has an original album from the decade in which they made their first big mark that even their biggest fans can agree on as a stone-cold classic the way Beatles fans can agree that Rubber Soul and Revolver, for instance, are classics or the way Dylan fans can rally around Blonde on Blonde and Highway 61 Revisited. In fact, I wonder if the only Who album that all Who fans will acknowledge is extremely solid, whether they’re sick of it or not, is Who’s Next.

    I hope that clarifies the question a bit.

  3. 2000 Man

    What’s the last concert t-shirt you remember buying?

    A bootleg Stones shirt in 89.

    Is there another undeniably great ’60s band other than The Who that never produced an original album in that decade (ie, not a hits collection) that a majority of even that band’s fans can agree on as being great?

    Are The Hollies great? If so, isn’t The Hollies Greatest Hits the only album of theirs you need?

    Which rocker would you be most interested in reading a novel by, whether that rocker has ever authored a novel or not?

    I bet Patterson Hood could write a cool book.

    What favorite artist’s new Look was so distasteful to you upon first seeing it that you briefly questioned whether you should continue liking said artist’s music?

    Ever see Mick Jagger’s Knebworth 76 outfit? It’s part sailor suit, part lingerie. It’s a really bad look.

    In these tough economic times, let’s say even The Boss has to do some belt-tightening and issue a layoff. If you’re The Boss, which member of The E-Street Band do you layoff and why?

    Little Steven. He can be a DJ or TV actor and Nils Lofgren can certainly do anything with a guitar Steven can do.

    Which novelist would you most be interested in hearing a rock ‘n roll record by, whether that novelist has ever recorded a record or not (and whether rock ‘n roll and records even existed when the novelist wrote)?

    I wonder if HP Lovecraft would have done something like The Cure or something like Slayer or maybe even one of those mush mouthed speed metal things?

  4. That’s what I was thinking, but I wanted to be exactly sure. Thanks for the clarification, Mod!

    It’s a legitimate thought that I honestly don’t have an answer to. I think you’ve found the one group that this is the case for…

    TB

  5. I bought a Camper T-shirt a couple months back because they were really good that night, and I felt like they could use the money having slid down to a smallish unpacked venue. I also approached the table hoping to buy one of those hippy looking silkscreen designs from the cover of one of their early albums. Alas, these were unavailable in anything but infant sizes so I ended up with a pretty generic shirt in support of their compilation album that had come out recently. C’est la vie.

    Although Live Dead was released in the 60’s, I think it’s pretty much conventional wisdom that the Dead’s first consistently great studio album was live Workingman’s Dead, circa 1970.

    Robbie Fulks thoroughly entertaining blogs and occasional printed pieces make me think he could crank out a pretty good novel if he set his mind to it.

    I’ve gotta go with everyone here. the Boss is a compassionate guy and Little Steven seems to have a lot of alternative irons in the fire. Besides, didn’t that rat jump off the E-Street ship for about 10 years after the Born in the USA tour.

    OK, she’s not exactly a novelist, but I think Mary Karr could rock.

  6. What’s the last concert t-shirt you remember buying?

    Plimsouls about 3 years ago.

    Which member of The E-Street Band do you layoff and why?

    Good points about Little Steven, but to me, he has a whole bunch of Jersey shore, back in the day cred, so he isn’t going anywhere. I’m assuming the fiddle player doesn’t count. I think that Clarence brings the least to the party but that would not be well received by a big chunk of the fans. I would go with Max Weinberg. He drumming is rock solid but I find it extremely boring. He hasn’t been with the Boss from the very beginning like Gary W. Talent. Max’s son has been playing about half the set on the current tour. Bruce could probably get the son at a cheaper price. He could come off like the good guy by spinning the whole thing like Max had to bail because of commitments with Conan, but Bruce was still willing to hire the son out of loyalty.

    Which novelist would you most be interested in hearing a rock ‘n roll record by?

    Bukowski, although that would probably be better suited as a jazz album.

  7. BigSteve

    1. I was thinking at first that I had never done that, but then I remembered that 5 or so years ago I bought a shirt at a Pernice Brothers show. It said I HATE MY LIFE (the name of one of their songs) across the front and Pernice Brothers on the back. I wore it to work once at my old job, and I remember someone said to me “You got issues.”

    2. Creedence comes to mind, because they were not an album band.

    3. I think Robyn Hitchcock could do it, especially now that the surrealism has settled down a bit.

    4. At first I was thinking Little Steven too, but then I got to thinking how important his high harmonies are. I think he could do without Nils, but the fiddle player is even more expendable.

    5. Thomas Pynchon.

  8. Mr. Moderator

    CCR is a CORRECT answer that came to mind for me too, BigSteve, and I’ll be right behind you in line for that Pynchon rock album.

  9. What’s the last concert t-shirt you remember buying?

    A ‘Song Remains the Same’ repro from Foreman Mills. If you mean actually at a concert, it was the Good Charlotte hoodie I got for my 15 year old cousin at a festival pier show about 2 years ago. When I went to see the Police last year(free tickets, never would have paid for that), there was a really cool ‘Regatta de Blanc’ tour shirt for sale…for $50 bucks. Fuck That.

    Is there another undeniably great ’60s band other than The Who that never produced an original album in that decade (ie, not a hits collection) that a majority of even that band’s fans can agree on as being great?

    No.

    Which rocker would you be most interested in reading a novel by, whether that rocker has ever authored a novel or not?

    Bozz Scaggs.

    What favorite artist’s new Look was so distasteful to you upon first seeing it that you briefly questioned whether you should continue liking said artist’s music?

    Peter Gabriel’s fat bald gnome Look.

    In these tough economic times, let’s say even The Boss has to do some belt-tightening and issue a layoff. If you’re The Boss, which member of The E-Street Band do you layoff and why?

    Steve Van Zant, for being more famous as an H.B.O. gangster with hair than as my guitarist. Besides, Nils can play the electric guitar.

    Which novelist would you most be interested in hearing a rock ‘n roll record by, whether that novelist has ever recorded a record or not (and whether rock ‘n roll and records even existed when the novelist wrote)?

    A Quadruple-Album of Heavy Rock by Herman Mellville.

  10. pudman13

    How about Clapton in all of his formations? I know people who love DISRAELI GEARS and BLUESBREAKERS, but they have plenty of naysayers. LAYLA is to him what WHO’S NEXT is to the Who, the one album all fans agree on.

    I don’t want to read any novels by rock and roll stars. I also don’t want to see their art, don’t want them to open restaurants and don’t want to see them play baseball.

    And I don’t want baseball players, novelists, actors or televangelists playing rock and roll.

    And KING DORK sucks.

  11. Concert Shirt – I got one at The Eric Clapton Crossroads festival in 2007. Got a classic Van Halen shirt at Target for $8 recently.

    Don’t understand the Who Question either

    I bet Neil Young could write interesting fiction.

    I dont want any novelist writing a rock record. Steven King was our best hope….

    I think Bruce is ADDING people, I saw him on Sunday and he had two backup singer, Nils and Little Steven, Sister Suzi Tyrell, Max and Jay Weinberg, The Professor, Big Man, Gary and the new guy who took over for Phantom Dan.

    Talk about too many people on the field! (still a great show though)

    Culture Club? They were big when I was in middle school and I liked the songs but I could really dig Boy George

  12. –last concert t-shirt you remember buying?

    Drive-By Truckers.

    –undeniably great ’60s band that never produced an original album in that decade a majority of even that band’s fans can agree on as being great?

    I’m with pudman13: Clapton.

    –rocker would you be most interested in reading a novel by

    Patterson Hood was a good answer. I’m going to go a similar route and say Mike Cooley. His book would be shorter, funnier, and tighter than Hood’s, if their songs are any indication.

    What favorite artist’s new Look was so distasteful to you upon first seeing it that you briefly questioned whether you should continue liking said artist’s music?

    –which member of The E-Street Band do you layoff and why?

    Soozie Tyrell. Little Steven feels too indispensible, for showmanship alone. He’s the Boss’s onstage foil.

    –Which novelist would you most be interested in hearing a rock ‘n roll record by?

    Michael Chabon.

  13. mockcarr

    What’s the last concert t-shirt you remember buying?

    The Hives. It was cheap.

    Is there another undeniably great ’60s band other than The Who that never produced an original album in that decade (ie, not a hits collection) that a majority of even that band’s fans can agree on as being great?

    CCR is a fine answer. Do the Animals have a killer album?

    Which rocker would you be most interested in reading a novel by, whether that rocker has ever authored a novel or not?

    Jeff Tweedy

    What favorite artist’s new Look was so distasteful to you upon first seeing it that you briefly questioned whether you should continue liking said artist’s music?

    Well, I don’t see it when I’m hearing it. The Who’s look never quite recovered from the Mod burial, but that was part of their appeal. Luckily they sort of broke up after that New Wave “look”.

    In these tough economic times, let’s say even The Boss has to do some belt-tightening and issue a layoff. If you’re The Boss, which member of The E-Street Band do you layoff and why?

    Of course, I’m tempted to say he should give himself a golden parachute, join AIG, and let his band play karaoke for others. Ah, Nils is expendable in their schtick, and in fact is better on his own anyhow. I couldn’t figure out what he was supposed to be miming in that Super Bowl show.

    Which novelist would you most be interested in hearing a rock ‘n roll record by, whether that novelist has ever recorded a record or not (and whether rock ‘n roll and records even existed when the novelist wrote)?

    George Pelecanos uses pretty solid music references throughout his DC-set mystery novels. It’s a quick way of fleshing out his character’s point of view.

  14. Omitted the look thing by mistake. My answer is “Amy Winehouse.” And the corollary was, yes, I was right to quit listening to her music.

  15. mockcarr

    That 60s question is confusing since a lot of very good bands were really singles artists then.

  16. Mr. Moderator

    Sourbob, thanks for correcting your oversight on the Look question. Your answer was KEY!

    Clapton, in all his permutations, is another great answer to that “no classic ’60s album” question. The Animals may fit the bill, but as much as I like them I’m not sure that they rank as GREAT. Same goes for The Hollies, although some would argue that they’re a lot better than The Byrds:P

  17. Whoa. WTF? People are claiming that Creedence Clearwater Revivial had no great albums in the 60s? *Willy and the Poor Boys* and *Green River* are not great records? Give me a break.

    And *Animalism* is a great Animals album.

    Concert T-shirt: R.E.M. (in 1985)
    So-So-60s-albums from Great Group: the Everly Brothers
    Rocker Novelist: Alex Chilton, Shane MacGowan, Roddy Frame
    Rocker’s New Hairdo/Outfit: Mick Jagger (many, many times)
    E-Street Reject: Little Stevie
    Novelist Rocker: Thomas Pynchon, Phillip K. Dick, or Nick Tosches

  18. diskojoe

    The last music T-Shirt that I bought was a Modern Lovers one that I got from the UK via the Web.

    As for the 2nd question, I would say the Byrds. There’s been quite a difference of opinion of which album by the original or semi-original linup (up to Sweetheart of the Rodeo) was their best.

    As for the Look question, I think that Elvis Costello’s growing of a beard & appearing on the cover of Musician magazine w/Jerry Garcia around the time of Mighty Like A Rose was the first small chinks of the lessening of my fandom of him.

    Rockers turned novelists: I would say Ray Davies & Martin Newell

    Novelists turned rockers: The’re both dead, but I would say P.G. Wodehouse & John Kennedy O’Toole

    I don’t care too much about Bruce and/or the E-Street Band. Maybe he should fire them & just go around solo doing Woody Guthrie songs while his daughter does steeplechase w/her horse in the background.

  19. Last t-shirt bought: Seattle band The Cops. I think I was the only person at the show who wasn’t a member of one of the opening bands. The Cops are now on indefinite hiatus. Too bad, they rocked.

    Novel rock #1: Randy Newman

    Bad new look: Elvis Costello’s current one.

    I say The Boss ditches everyone except Tallent and Max, and makes The E Street a power trio. Not that I’m saying that the result will be very good.

    I too wouldn’t mind hearing Pelecanos make an album. He wrote the lyrics to a pretty good Steve Wynn song a few years ago. I think it was called “Cindy, It was You.”

  20. Mr. Moderator

    Diskojoe wrote:

    As for the Look question, I think that Elvis Costello’s growing of a beard & appearing on the cover of Musician magazine w/Jerry Garcia around the time of Mighty Like A Rose was the first small chinks of the lessening of my fandom of him.

    Good one!

    butcher pete, good defense of CCR. Green River may be their best lp, and it’s a very good one. That said, I don’t know that anyone considers it or any CCR album a “classic.”

    I need to get myself a copy of Animalism. Thanks for the reminder. A friend was supposed to set aside a copy for me among his thousands of used albums that he sells, but I don’t know what he did with it.

  21. alexmagic

    What’s the last concert t-shirt you remember buying?

    None. I hate shirts with things on them. Except buttons, I guess.

    Which rocker would you be most interested in reading a novel by, whether that rocker has ever authored a novel or not?

    Donald Fagen certainly has it in him to write a novel, and I’d definitely read it if he did. I’m surprised Skunk Baxter never came out with a series of Tom Clancy-esque books about a fictional beret wearing guitar player-turned-defense contractor-turned-President of the United States who goes around killing terrorists and saving the world.

    Bill Wyman might have a Lolita in him.

    Least readable potential novel by a rocker I like would have to be Prince. Can you imagine trying to read a novel full of Prince-speak and rebuses? {@} would not wish 4 that 2 happen 2 u.

    What favorite artist’s new Look was so distasteful to you upon first seeing it that you briefly questioned whether you should continue liking said artist’s music?

    Sam Coomes from Quasi had a really bad long hair/super skinny/pale/basketball jersey thing going on the Sword of God album that threw me in a major way. Luckily, by the time they came here on tour, he had switched to a very cool, Instant Karma-era Lennon look, with the buzz cut and army coat and all. An excellent Look adjustment choice then and now.

    In these tough economic times, let’s say even The Boss has to do some belt-tightening and issue a layoff. If you’re The Boss, which member of The E-Street Band do you layoff and why?

    Now this is a good question!

    Sourbob nails exactly why all the Little Steven guesses are wrong. He’s worked himself way too far into Bruce’s routine. That whole goofy bit they did at the end of the Super Bowl show? Nobody else is in the E-Street Band is taking that spot.

    cdm actually nailed my exact train of thought: Max is victim of the rock recession. Springsteen knows he has a steady gig, and he sees Max wearing those suits on TV every night. It’s a no-brainer. Bruce offers him a buyout and they both get to save face when The Boss claims that it was because of Max’s duties as part of moving out to LA for the Tonight Show. Then they can go out and hire a cheap young guy from Jersey to replace him, and Bruce gets to create this new guy’s back story from scratch, giving him a few more years’ worth of stage patter.

    The next rock recession question might be: if Mick and Keith were forced to balance the books to placate Stones shareholders, who would they let go and replace with an extra, Charlie Watts or Ron Wood? Wood’s certainly in the historically more expendable slot, but I think it might be more complex than that.

    Which novelist would you most be interested in hearing a rock ‘n roll record by, whether that novelist has ever recorded a record or not (and whether rock ‘n roll and records even existed when the novelist wrote)?

    Pynchon is a great answer. I would definitely listen to an album that sounded like Vineland.

    A Melville album would be like Procol Harum, wouldn’t it? I’d listen to that. Which reminds me, with the recent uptick in pirate news, I need to eventually do a post about the best song about pirates or sailors.

  22. “Bill Wyman might have a Lolita in him.”

    I think you mean a Lolita might have Bill Wyman in her.

  23. Mr. Moderator

    I’ll play along too.

    What’s the last concert t-shirt you remember buying?

    I don’t buy many concert t-shirts. The last one I either bought or was given was from my friends and labelmates, The Knife & Fork Band, featuring RTH’s very own Geo.

    Is there another undeniably great ’60s band other than The Who that never produced an original album in that decade (ie, not a hits collection) that a majority of even that band’s fans can agree on as being great?

    I’m sorry this question caused so much confusion but pleasantly surprised that no one argued with my premise that The Who failed to turn out a stone-cold classic album in the ’60s. I’m going to leave out bands I don’t consider quite GREAT (eg, The Hollies, The Animals, and many other singles-based bands). Although CCR was a singles-based band, I think that at their best they turned out GREAT music – a notch more original and vital than their singles-based breathern. Because no one (but butcher pete) has ever raved about a single CCR album of original material (they are the definition of a Greatest Hits band), I’m going to support all other nominations of them for this answer.

    Some of the greatest Motown and Stax artists, operating in even more of a singles-based market, also failed to release a commonly acknowledged GREAT album: The Temptations, The Supremes, The Four Tops, Otis Redding, Sam and Dave…

    Was it Diskojoe who suggested The Everly Brothers? I think of them as a late-50s band, but they’re probably more of an early-60s band that gets left out of these discussions because they came out before The Beatles.

    Which rocker would you be most interested in reading a novel by, whether that rocker has ever authored a novel or not?

    Pete Shelly.

    What favorite artist’s new Look was so distasteful to you upon first seeing it that you briefly questioned whether you should continue liking said artist’s music?

    Elvis Costello’s Deadhead/Mighty Like a Turd phase, from which he’s never really recovered, Look-wise or, for the most part, musically. Once his Look began lacking definition, his music did as well. Coincidence?

    In these tough economic times, let’s say even The Boss has to do some belt-tightening and issue a layoff. If you’re The Boss, which member of The E-Street Band do you layoff and why?

    There have been some great arguments made for Max Weinberg and the time for an amicable buyout could not be better, but if I’m The Boss, I’m giving pianist Roy Bittan the boot. The piano has played a minor role in The Boss’ music since The River, when Danny F’s organ and accordion came to the fore. Those 10-minute songs with the long piano intros could be trimmed down. Beside, that piano’s a lot of weight to haul around on the road.

    I should note that this question was inspired by a broader topic suggested by Townsman Alexmagic. Thanks, my man. After this test run I’m pretty sure we’re going to begin running an occasional theme on rock budget crisis issues.

    Which novelist would you most be interested in hearing a rock ‘n roll record by, whether that novelist has ever recorded a record or not (and whether rock ‘n roll and records even existed when the novelist wrote)?

    I’ve already seconded Pynchon, but let me add my own choice to this list, Thomas Berger.

  24. diskojoe

    Mr. Mod, it’s wasn’t me who suggested the Everly Brothers.

    Also, I do want to take issue about 60s soul artists not having classic albums. Otis Blue, by Otis Redding, has been regarded & acknowleged as a classic album, especially in the UK (it recently came out in a deluxe edition). Live at the Apollo by James Brown and Night Beat by Sam Cooke also comes to mind. The Sam & Dave albums, especially Soul Men and Double Dynamite, are also regarded as classic.

  25. 2000 Man

    Phooey on youse guys that can’t get behind CCR. Green River and Willy and the Poor Boys are both as good as Classic Rock gets. Cosmo’s Factory is even better those. There’s only one Exile on Main St. That doesn’t mean there aren’t other great albums, just that there aren’t other Greatest Album Evers.

  26. Mr. Moderator

    I can’t count Live at the Apollo as an album of original music; it’s a live album with songs that had already been cut as singles, right?

    I know the Brits in particular make a big deal about Otis Blue – and surely it’s halfway to any Otis Greatest Hits album collection – but is it really considered a “must-have,” landscape-changing Otis Redding album or is it the first Otis album you decide to buy after you’ve bought a hits collection and at least two Otis live albums?

    Again, with CCR, I’m way behind them as a band and way behind Fogerty as a singer, but how many people start out buying CCR through a hits comp vs how many people start out buying Green River or Willy and the Poor Boys? Show of hands if you started with anything but a CCR hits collection.

  27. alexmagic

    “Bill Wyman might have a Lolita in him.”

    I think you mean a Lolita might have Bill Wyman in her.

    cdm, I can’t even begin to tell you how disappointed I would have been if no one had written this before I checked back in. Virtual fist bump!

    Mod, doesn’t Federici’s death last year in turn make Bittan’s job more secure today? Springsteen already has one new guy filling the Danny spot, so he’s going to want to keep The Professor around for continuity in that whole area. I also think that The Boss is socially responsible enough to keep Bittan on the payroll because he knows what happens when he doesn’t: Jim Steinman brings Bittan into the studio. Does Bruce really want that on his conscience again?

    I think Bruce cuts Max loose and goes scouting for a new drummer. And when he does, he ends up trying to steal away that guy currently drumming for McCartney. Once that guy’s in the band, Bruce starts giving him some of the Big Man’s old gags and it leads to Clemons feeling underappreciated and a bit like he’s being replaced in the stage show. I expect this would be the focus of Clemons’ second memoir, if he ever followed up No Small Parts For The Big Man.

  28. pudman13

    “Otis Blue” may well be the only 60s studio soul album considered by critics to be a classic, but I ask, how many of you have listend to it lately? It’s not an “album” at all. It’s whatever he happened to record the previous few months. It certainly has some classics on it: “Respect,” “Ole Man Trouble,” “You Don’t Miss Your Water,” “I’ve Been Loving You Too Long,” but it also has several completely unnecesary covers, as do most not-classic albums of the 60s. I’ll give him a pass on “Satisfaction” because of the whole concept of him showing the Stones what it would have sounded like with horns (even though I don’t like it), but covers of “My Girl?” “Shake?” “Wonderful World?” That’s not my idea of an immortal classic album, not even close. Redding is as much a greatest hits type as anyone mentined anywhere in this thread, and much much moreso than CCR, whose albums, while maybe not masterpieces, all contain songs that I would miss if I only had a hits comp.

    Redding himself said he never recorded albums, that he just cut songs. I think that “Otis Blue” earned its classic status because it introduced critics to him moreso than that it hangs together as an album.

    “Live At The Apollo” does qualify as a classic, but aren’t live albums just variations on greatest hits albums?

  29. 2000 Man

    People might start with a hits comp for CCR now, but when they were functioning and the K Tel collection wasn’t out yet, plenty of people started off with Green River or Cosmo’s Factory. Those are the first ones I heard, but the first one I got around to buying was that Royal Albert Hall lp. I don’t get how that matters, though.

  30. What’s the last concert t-shirt you remember buying?

    I rarely buy t-shirts at shows anymore mainly because I already have so many of them as it is and only so much drawer and closet space. Plus, I typically wear a XXL (XL can fit sometimes but sometimes they’re a bit snug) size t-shirt and most of the time, I just don’t see shirts in my size (with some notable exceptions). With all that said, I think the last concert shirt I bought was a Dead Milkmen shirt (cow logo on white background) last October. Hi mrclean!

    Is there another undeniably great ’60s band other than The Who that never produced an original album in that decade (ie, not a hits collection) that a majority of even that band’s fans can agree on as being great?

    A statement like that makes me write wanna something snotty like “if most of The Who’s fans don’t think that The Who Sell Out is a great album, then they can suck it” or “if most of The Who’s fans don’t think that The Who Sell Out is a great album, then they don’t have ears”. Oops, I just said it. 🙂

    I don’t have an answer to your question, though, without thinking about bands that you would definitely regard as 2nd or 3rd tier.

    Which rocker would you be most interested in reading a novel by, whether that rocker has ever authored a novel or not?

    Good question. Maybe Elvis Costello or Lou Reed? As far as younger artists, I’m looking forward to Joe Pernice’s novel.

    What favorite artist’s new Look was so distasteful to you upon first seeing it that you briefly questioned whether you should continue liking said artist’s music?

    That’s an easy one. Although I didn’t actually start listening to his stuff until a few years later, Elvis Costello’s bearded hobo look circa Might Like a Rose just made him look awful. I kind of grew to appreciate it, though, for the perverse reason that it pissed so many of his fans off (and for no good reason, I say).

    In these tough economic times, let’s say even The Boss has to do some belt-tightening and issue a layoff. If you’re The Boss, which member of The E-Street Band do you layoff and why?

    Nils Lofgren. I always thought that 3 guitar players were too much for that band. I don’t have anything against Nils, but Bruce can’t lay himself off and you need Little Steven for the bandana factor alone.

    Which novelist would you most be interested in hearing a rock ‘n roll record by, whether that novelist has ever recorded a record or not (and whether rock ‘n roll and records even existed when the novelist wrote)?

    Brendan Halpin (he wrote Dear Catastrophe Waitress, one of my favorite novels in recent memory)

    The novelist (at least of the ones I like0 who I’d least likely wanna hear a record by is Nick Hornby, only because it would probably sound an awful lot like Marah.

  31. I need to get myself a copy of Animalism. Thanks for the reminder. A friend was supposed to set aside a copy for me among his thousands of used albums that he sells, but I don’t know what he did with it.

    If it’s the same friend I’m thinking of, I bought an Animals’ Greatest Hits Lp off of him a few years ago at his big record sale in South Philly.

  32. There’s no need to speculate about who is going to replace Max. Just click on the link below and scroll down to see pictures of Max’s kid sitting on the throne. There’s even a picture of him playing with max sitting right next to him playing tambourines. The fix is in, I tell ya.

    http://www.backstreets.com/setlists.html

  33. Alex: Terrorist fist jab right back at you.

  34. pudman13

    Beware: “Animalism” has “Shake” on it too!

    I won’t go too much further into this particular argument at the moment, but I’ll ask in all seriousness: Are there any truly great albums (top echelon) that are not by songwriters? When I think of the albums that rank at the very top of the critical canon, none of them are packed with cover versions, (and I think that it should be that way.) A few of that are not by songwriters are still full of “new” material, much of which was written for the performer, creating a coherent record (i.e. “Dusty In Memphis.”)

    Is this question worthy of a new thread?

  35. pudman13

    Oh, in answer to my own question: The Byrds’ MR. TAMBOURINE MAN? (though I would argue in favor of YOUNGER THAN YESTERDAY and NOTORIOUS BYRD BROTHERS, both of which are predominantly self-written) Fairport Convention’s 2nd, 3rd and 4th albums? Interesting that the best US folk-rock band and the best UK folk-rock band are the first two bands I think of here…

  36. diskojoe

    pudman13, Rubber Soul was made in the exact same circumstances as Otis Blue, i.e. it was comprised by whatever the Beatles happened to record the previous few months, including a leftover from the Help sessions & it was actually done in a rush in order to get it out before Christmas.

    Also, what’s w/the hatin’ w/the cover versions of Shake, Wonderful World & My Girl? Otis did the 1st two as a tribute to Sam Cooke who died a few months before & indeed his version of Shake is probably the best known today. Also, his version of My Girl was his 1st big hit in the UK, where it reached #11.

    Also, I agreed w/brylant on the brillance of the Who Sell Out, which is magnified by the new Deluxe Version & Animalism is a pretty good album.

  37. pudman13

    That’s not exactly right about RUBBER SOUL, though certainly there are great albums that were essentially nothing more than a collection of songs.

    RE: cover versions. See my other post.
    “Wonderful World” is a song I hate in every single possible version, by the way, even the Cooke original, but that’s not really my point.

  38. Mr. Moderator

    For the record, I love Otis Redding’s versions of “Shake” and “My Girl,” especially live, when he ramps up the BPM! His version of “Satisfaction” mostly proves how amazing The Stones’ original is.

  39. underthefloat

    My 2 cents:

    –What favorite artist’s new Look was so distasteful to you upon first seeing it that you briefly questioned whether you should continue liking said artist’s music?—

    David Bowie on the cover of “Let’s Dance”. My gut knew something went very wrong before I heard the proof…

    The trifecta for WORST EVER for change in look, change in name and change in style of music in one gigantic freefall… Buster Poindexter… THUD,THUD,THUD.

  40. Mr. Moderator

    underthefloat, those are some POWERFUL answers!

  41. underthefloat

    Thanks Mod. I totally agree with your Costello beard thoughts.
    I was listening to “Get Happy” today for the first time in a long time. What a terrific batch of songs. Virually, every song strong and to the point. The crisp and clean shaven Costello.

  42. dbuskirk

    “Show of hands if you started with anything but a CCR hits collection.”

    WILLIE & THE POOR BOYS was my first CCR record, a cut-out I picked up in high school. I always thought all their albums were well sequenced with worthy non-hit stuff in them. The latest editions have wonderful bonus stuff as well.

  43. I own Cosmo and that’s all. I’ll be the first to admit that I should own more CCR (and I will). I have this weird inner thing where I just have very very hard time buying greatest hits comps. I will buy them for two reasons: If it’s an artist I’m marginally interested in and feel that hits are all I’d ever want. OR if the package is baited with tracks only available on that set (example: The Who Then and Now with the new tracks). I’m more likely to buy a box set (The Hollies) than I would greatest hits. I don’t know why I do this.

    I’ll go to bat any day any time for Sell Out. HOWEVER, I understand what Mod meant by his question. But, hey, I’d got to bat for By Numbers, too…

    TB

  44. Mr. Moderator

    For the record, Sell Out is my favorite Who record, but I know a lot of Who fans who don’t like it. It’s lacking in the Daltrey/balls department, and that’s a big attraction for Who fans.

  45. I kinda go back and forth between Sell Out and Who’s Next. One of the frustration/great things about The Who is no one album captures all the things they did well.

    I think Endless Wire is one of the strangest “reunion” albums ever released. It sounds like one of Pete’s Scooped demo albums, but with Roger singing lead. And of course, there’s an indecipherable plotline. All in all, not an album I particularly enjoy.

  46. BigSteve

    I’m one of the Who fans not sold on Sell Out. It’s certainly not because there’s not enough Roger. I think the good songs are really good. It’s just that I find the commercials intensely annoying. I admire the concept, but it’s just not an album I want to listen to all the way through.

  47. I think the expanded Sell Out srives the point home better, but I understand that its harshest critics felt like the “concept” fell flat by side two of the original LP (the commercials and jingles disappeared). I can understand this beef. Song for song, I adore this LP.

    As I said before, I like Endless Wire as a collection of Pete Townshend songs. As a proper Who album, I don’t know. I’m glad they did it, for their sake. I suppose it erases any ill feeling about It’s Hard, but 25 years is an awful long time. It’s not like they had It’s Hard in the can and realized that it was a turd so they rallied the troops to make that “last great record” a la The Beatles with Let It Be/Get Back/Abbey Road. Sometimes it’s better to let sleeping dogs lie. Endless Wire is not a classic album in any sense nor will it ever be, but I like for what it is: a collection of new songs written by Pete and sung by Rog. And I happen to like the songs themselve (even the crazy “story”).

    TB

  48. diskojoe

    Regarding the lack of commercials on side 2 of The Who Sell Out, in his article on the album that appeared in MOJO, Dave Marsh had the theory that side 1 was crass commericalized AM & side 2 was the more free form FM w/o the forced zaniness. It sorta kinda makes sense.

  49. That does make sense, but doesn’t Dave Marsh like that record more than anyone in the world? He’d probably find a way to explain any of its flaws, which is understandable…Dave’s more die hard than even me.

    TB

  50. Well, I need to withdraw my nomination of the Everly Brothers.

    Turns out that their early great Warner Brother albums were released in 1960 and 1961 (*It’s Everly Time*, *Fabulous Style Of…*, *Date With…*).

    But they released a lot of really poor albums after ’62 or so. Though some think *Roots* (1968) is a great album.

Jun 182007
 

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When you were younger, did you ever stop to wonder whether you would tire of or outgrow a particular album or artist? Which album or artist was it? Did you?

What band would be improved by the removal of one musician, with no replacement?

What’s the most shocking album that you discovered a family member owned?

Is there a piece of music that represents, for you, a particular, personal state of mind? No need to share the particular, personal state of mind, but please share the musical representation of one of your unique states of mind.

What’s your least-favorite of the acknowledged “great” albums by The Rolling Stones?

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  1. Mr Mod Asks

    What’s your least-favorite of the acknowledged “great” albums by The Rolling Stones?

    Easy. “Beggars Banquet”

  2. Mr. Moderator

    I’m with you, Andyr, and I like the ease with which you answered that question. Think about that idea I’ve floated in the past, you know, the band we should start.

  3. 1. I think people outgrow bands all the time, in ways that can be summed up as “It’s not you, it’s me” versus “It’s not me, it’s you.” In the latter category, I simply lost interest in R.E.M. the first time I ever heard NEW ADVENTURES IN HI-FI. In the former, I was out record store shopping with my wife and RTH’s own Pudman a few weeks ago and we found a copy of last year’s Loud Family album in the racks, and all three of us basically said “You know, I really just have no interest at all in hearing that.” The irony being that I met not only RTH’s own Pudman, but also my wife, on the Loud Family mailing list many moons ago.

    2. I think I would like Radiohead if they were a strictly instrumental post-rock band without a singer.

    3. I once overheard my mother (whose main musical interests were Ray Price, Marty Robbins and Ernest Tubb) singing Dylan’s “Rainy Day Women #12 and 35” while doing the dishes. Similarly, my brother and I came in late from a movie once when we were teenagers to find our mom sitting on the couch watching the Woodstock movie on cable. We assumed she was sitting up for us, but she said, “No, I’m waiting to see Hendrix do the National Anthem.” Go figure.

    3. “I Say Nothing” — Voice of the Beehive

    4. Is SOME GIRLS considered one of the greats? If so, that one. If you’re limiting it to the AFTERMATH through EXILE period…probably LET IT BLEED.

  4. Mr. Moderator

    Good answers, Great One. As for your last answer, I’ll accept Some Girls; it’s not for me to determine where the cutoff of “great albums” is, and there’s no reason there can’t be some less-than-great ones in-between the greats.

  5. I grow out of bands all the time. When you think about it, most bands do not maintain the interest of fans for whole lifespans (either the fans’ or the bands’).

    Least favorite classic Stones album: Sticky Fingers.

  6. BigSteve

    I think Aftermath is pretty weak. Imagine if Let It Bleed had replaced Country Honk with Honky Tonk Women! Dropping Love In Vain would have improved it too, but You Got the Silver has to stay.

  7. meanstom

    1. As I reached college I used to wonder whether I’d ever grow out of Sweet, a childhood favorite. I did not.

    2. Yes minus Jon Anderson.

    3. I was suprised if not shocked to learn that my dad owned Who’s Next. I came home with it one day and he said ‘Why’d you buy that one? I could have lent you mine.’

    4. Monk’s ‘Epistrophy’

    5. Sticky Fingers

  8. When you were younger, did you ever stop to wonder whether you would tire of or outgrow a particular album or artist? Which album or artist was it? Did you?

    This is an interesting question. I don’t think I’ve ever fully “grown out of” liking any band or artist that I once loved, but as I hear more music, naturally I listen to old favorites less. Nevertheless, the band that comes to mind in this category is The Cure. I still get excited when I hear one of their songs (like a weird version of “The Forest” that I heard last night on Sirius’ 1st wave channel) and I’ll pull out one of their records every now and then, but I find that I pull them out less as the years go by.

    Is there a piece of music that represents, for you, a particular, personal state of mind? No need to share the particular, personal state of mind, but please share the musical representation of one of your unique states of mind.

    I can give many answers here, but Shuggie Otis’ Inspiration Information always puts me in a tranquil, peaceful state and is thus a great chill-out album.

    What’s your least-favorite of the acknowledged “great” albums by The Rolling Stones?

    I gotta go with Let it Bleed here. Aside from obvious highlights like “You Can’t Get What You Want” and “Gimme Shelter”, I never thought it was all that great. And Big Steve is right. It would’ve been a lot better had “Honky Tonk Women” replaced “Country Honk”.

  9. saturnismine

    1. tough one. happy mondays minus “bez”? nahhh…how about we remove woody from the stones and just let keith cut the guitar parts?

    2. my father had a collection of hank williams songs.

    3. Astrud Gilberto’s “Dindi”.

    4. Let it Bleed.

  10. hrrundivbakshi

    When you were younger, did you ever stop to wonder whether you would tire of or outgrow a particular album or artist? Which album or artist was it? Did you?

    Never wondered if I’d outgrow anybody at the time, but crtainly did, lots of times. Much of the growth was out of idiotic cock-rock (believe it or not), and (also believe it or not) some retardo-prog. Specific bands that fell by the wayside: Nugent, Travers, ELP. Some teen-rock faves from youngsterhoood that are still every bit as great today — and, no, I don’t mean with the assistance of my Geezotron 2000 Nostalgo-meter: Van Fuckin’ Halen, the Zeez (duh), AC/DC.

    What band would be improved by the removal of one musician, with no replacement?

    Hmm. The E St. Band needs to dump that lard-ass sax player, maybe.

    What’s the most shocking album that you discovered a family member owned?

    My dad’s copy of some George Crumb album really freaked me out as a youngster. I seriously worried at the time that my Dad might be going mad. Who else would lsten to this stuff?

    Is there a piece of music that represents, for you, a particular, personal state of mind? No need to share the particular, personal state of mind, but please share the musical representation of one of your unique states of mind.

    “Ready To Go,” Supagroup.

    What’s your least-favorite of the acknowledged “great” albums by The Rolling Stones?

    Assuming there are any dullards who think “Between the Buttons” is a classic, I’ll choose that one. TURD! If I’m wrong about its status in the Stones canon, I’ll third the choice of “Beggar’s Banquet.”

  11. “Let It Bleed” is my least favorite of the Stones great albums. Fantastic at moments, but spotty.

  12. Assuming there are any dullards who think “Between the Buttons” is a classic, I’ll choose that one. TURD! If I’m wrong about its status in the Stones canon, I’ll third the choice of “Beggar’s Banquet.”

    I don’t know if I’d go so far as to call either a “classic”, but I do really like both Aftermath and Between the Buttons. I don’t think the latter should be weighed in this discussion since, if anything, it’s underrated in the Stones canon. In fact, I prefer that era to the much more lauded late ’60s/early ’70s one (which I like a lot as well, so don’t get me wrong). As I get older, the mid ’60s stuff appeals to me much more than their late ’60s (starting from Let It Bleed) to late ’70s stuff does, with the exceptions of Exile on Main Street and Some Girls, of course.

    I will also defend Beggars Banquet here. I’m definitely on Team “Let It Bleed is the dog of the Jimmy Miller” years.

    Oh and the same goes for The Who. I’d rather listen to any album up to The Who Sell Out than anything from Tommy onwards these days, despite my teenage love for Who’s Next.

  13. saturnismine

    i think part of the problem with Let it Bleed is that it has a song i never need to hear again on it: “you can’t always get what you want’. my GOD…of all the stones songs, i think fm radio has really fucked my enjoyment of that song forever and ever.

  14. Otto said

    “What’s the most shocking album that you discovered a family member owned?

    My dad’s copy of some George Crumb album really freaked me out as a youngster. I seriously worried at the time that my Dad might be going mad. Who else would lsten to this stuff?”

    I had Crumb as a teacher in college for a 20th Century music appreciation class. Kind of a nice, soft spoken, unpretentious guy that actually looks generally like that other famous Crumb, Robert, sans the porkpie hat. Anyway, Crumb did a lt of different stuff, some of it sort od impressionistic and not particularly unlistenable. Can you remember the name of the piece that so set you off.?

  15. hrrundivbakshi

    Well, I was only, like, 10 or something. It could’ve been anything.

  16. Mr. Moderator

    Here’s where I play along…

    When you were younger, did you ever stop to wonder whether you would tire of or outgrow a particular album or artist? Which album or artist was it? Did you?

    The first time I tripped I remember wondering, along with so many other things I’d come to know and love, whether I’d still love the first Clash album in the morning – and years thereafter. As it turned out, I loved it as much as ever the next day, but years later I don’t love it with all the easy enthusiasm I once did. I still love it “objectively,” but I only listen to my few favorite songs to get pumped up. “Garageland” is the one song that still retains all its beauty for me; “Complete Control” has lost none of its power and glory.

    What band would be improved by the removal of one musician, with no replacement?

    I could say it already happened for The Replacements on Pleased to Meet Me, but I don’t like them enough even without Bob Stinson. Simon and Garfunkel minus Garfunkel worked out better, but I’m going to dream a little dream and say CSNY minus Crosby.

    What’s the most shocking album that you discovered a family member owned?

    Mmmmm. Most of my family members have been consistent in their tastes, but late in his life my city slicker, Italian-American, Sinatra/Bennett-loving grandfather, who’d left behind his late-night city ways for breeding thoroughbred horses his last 20 years, got into Willie Nelson. It was the first entry of country music in my family.

    Is there a piece of music that represents, for you, a particular, personal state of mind? No need to share the particular, personal state of mind, but please share the musical representation of one of your unique states of mind.

    I’ve said it before, that one side of Fripp and Eno’s No Pussyfooting, the one that also appears as part of Evening Star and that live bootleg I dig, hits on a certain state of mind I know well.

    What’s your least-favorite of the acknowledged “great” albums by The Rolling Stones?

    Definitely, Beggars’ Banquet. I’ll write about it in depth sometime soon. Sticky Fingers and Aftermath don’t count as “great” for me, although Some Girls does in that late-career magical season way.

  17. BigSteve

    Probably Ancient Voices of Children. It was on Nonesuch back when that meant cheap, and in the 70s it was the one modern record owned by many, many people.

  18. 2000 Man

    When you were younger, did you ever stop to wonder whether you would tire of or outgrow a particular album or artist? Which album or artist was it? Did you?

    Dunno if I stopped to wonder, but I sure thought The Doors were ginchy. After tripping for two years really hard I kinda figured that Jim was even more clueless han me. So I kinda can hardly stand The Doors anymore.

    What band would be improved by the removal of one musician, with no replacement?

    Why you guys be hatin’ on Bob Stinson? For me, the Mats were all about Paul anyway, but I liked Bob. Maybe if Led Zeppelin had got rid of Bob Plant I wouldn’t have utterly hated them as much as I do, but then again, at least they quit using The Yardbirds pretty early on in the game. Come to think of it, there’s a band that certainly didn’t miss Top Topham’s replacement. So I think I’ll have to pick Eric Clapton.

    What’s the most shocking album that you discovered a family member owned?

    I’m the one that has most of the music. My mom bought an Uncle Tupelo album, though. I think she thinks it’s one guy and his name is Tupelo. She says she likes it, but I have my doubts.

    Is there a piece of music that represents, for you, a particular, personal state of mind? No need to share the particular, personal state of mind, but please share the musical representation of one of your unique states of mind.

    If it’s something I like, then it’s the greatest thing I’ve ever heard while I’m listening to it. I can be a little more objective later.

    What’s your least-favorite of the acknowledged “great” albums by The Rolling Stones?

    Oh, man…no dissing the Greatest Group on Earth – only bad comes of it! The “Big Four” of The Stones is Beggars Banquet, Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers and Exile on Main St. Beggars Banquet bitch slaps hippy psych back into it’s trippy little spot under the basement stairs. It’s truly unique among Stones albums, and almost mankind’s greatest achievement (which, it turns out is Exile on Main St.). So for me, I am left with a choice of two – and I have to go with Sticky Fingers because it’s kinda mellow and Can’t You Hear Me Knocking has that long jam that should have faded in about four seconds. Some call it Mick Taylor’s finest moment, but his finest moments came on the 72 and 73 tours, where his playing on You Can’t Always Get What You Want and Love In Vain are just mind bogglingly fantastic.

    My own Big Four drops Sticky Fingers and manages to get Some Girls in the number three slot. What a boffo album, and it competes with the punks of the time, like Stiff Little Fingers and The Buzzcocks quite nicely.

    Besides, Beggars Banquet has Sympathy For The Devil on it. The rest of it could be Beatles novelty numbers like Octopus’ Garden, When I’m 64 and Bungalow Bill and it would still be one of the greatest things to ever happen. Keith’s guitar solo is just sulime.

  19. Mr. Moderator

    Great stuff, 2000 Man. Keep the chatter coming, Townspeople!

  20. 1. It’s a funny question. I guess when Paul Weller outgrew The Jam it occurred to me that I might too. (I didn’t get into them until after they’d broken up, though; does that count?) Anyway, I still like them but I like them in the way I look at old pictures of myself and wish I could get that thin.

    2. Is that fiddler in Dashboard Confessional permanent? If so, her – though that might not qualify since I think she’s just irrelevant, not holding anyone back.
    I agree with whoever above that my favorite Stones period is probably the brief Keith-only phase, if I’ve got my history strait (but see below).

    3. I came home from college in the mid-’80s and inflicted (or so I thought) MTV on my family. Next time I came home, my dad had bought ZZ Top’s Eliminator record. Hrrundi will tell you that no one – not me, not him, not Charlie – could make up an odder match of man and record.

    4. This is the question that’s been tripping me up for the past 24 hours. What’s a “unique” state of mind? I don’t know that I have one; I’m not sure many people have one, and it would seem that the creator of the piece of music in question would at least possibly be in the same state of mind, thus destroying the uniqueness.

    I mean, if you’re talking about “unique among RTH denizens,” I guess I’d pick “Strawberry Letter #23” (Brothers Johnson version). I mean, that’s an ethic I actually try to live. Or does my reading of The Carpenters’ “Christmas Song” as an anthem of heartbreak and creepy stalking get at what you’re getting at?

    5. I don’t know enough Stones albums well enough to make such distinctions. I’m sure I’ve heard all the contenders, but I couldn’t say.

  21. mockcarr

    I can’t think of any. But I’ve certainly grown out my share of band t-shirts.

    I don’t like the slicker Replacements much. I need Bob Stinson’s anarchy on the vinyl even if it was somewhat infuriating to watch. It’s pretty obvious those Wings albums wouldn’t miss Linda a whole lot, nor would I mind a Plastic Winston Band backing Lennon. I suppose that doesn’t count. Did John Fogerty really need his brother in CCR? I am for less residents in the E Street Band, but I still think I’d not like the result. Led Zep would still need a melody of sorts above it all, despite my desire for herbicide. Couldn’t Jefferson Airplane have decided on ONE vocalist?

    It was pretty cool finding Ian Gilliam singing on that Jesus Christ Superstar album amid all the Doris Day and Four Lads albums my mom had.

    Days by the Kinks gives me a certain mood every time.

    Some Girls. Man, as a high school kid, I was so disappointed in that album when it came out, I passed up smoking pot with this hot, stacked girl because I KNEW she would be playing it. Actually, that may have saved me an embarassing doctor’s visit in retrospect. Thanks Glimmer Twins.

  22. hrrundivbakshi

    Mockcarr said:

    Some Girls. Man, as a high school kid, I was so disappointed in that album when it came out, I passed up smoking pot with this hot, stacked girl because I KNEW she would be playing it. Actually, that may have saved me an embarassing doctor’s visit in retrospect. Thanks Glimmer Twins.

    I say:

    Mockcarr, we hardly knew ye!

  23. When you were younger, did you ever stop to wonder whether you would tire of or outgrow a particular album or artist? Which album or artist was it? Did you?

    Joni Mitchell, Blue. In early University, my mum gave me this and I loved this album, loved this album, brought it with me to Vancouver – played it a lot, people I was living with borrowed it and played it to death – grew to never want to hear this album again. Now I can tolerate it, but I would never put it on myself. It gives me a migraine – although I just put on Court & Spark the other day, and it’s still pretty stand-up.

    What band would be improved by the removal of one musician, with no replacement?

    Joey Molland from Badfinger. Ah ha ha ha ha ha haaaaa. Sigh. No really – whoever said removing Crosby, I second that emotion.

    What’s the most shocking album that you discovered a family member owned?

    Grandma owning Like A Prayer. A half-naked body among the Harry Connick Jr’s, Andrews Sisters and Frank Sinatra’s of their world. My friend stayed over the grandparent’s house with me after we saw The Beastie Boys in Detroit one night and in the morning, Grandma sang along to Madonna while we ate breakfast and watched MTV “on american cable” (kind of a big deal), and both my friend and I turned around to stare at which point Grandma replied, “Well, I wouldn’t know anything if it weren’t for the kids!” My friend thought I had the coolest Grandma ever. She is the sweetest lady. She thought being a feminist was the same thing as being a lesbian until we explained it all to her. Apparently someone at one of her VFW meetings called her “nothing but a feminist,” under their breath and it wasn’t meant as a compliment. Gasp! Grannies, God love ’em.

    Is there a piece of music that represents, for you, a particular, personal state of mind? No need to share the particular, personal state of mind, but please share the musical representation of one of your unique states of mind.

    Timeless Melody by The La’s, or Pearl by Chapterhouse.

    What’s your least-favorite of the acknowledged “great” albums by The Rolling Stones?

    ummm… hmm, between the buttons. like that album, but least favourite.

  24. general slocum

    When you were younger, did you ever stop to wonder whether you would tire of or outgrow a particular album or artist? Which album or artist was it? Did you?

    I never considered that such a thing could occur. When I saw Kiss at 13, my awareness that I was already to mature for them didn’t get in the way of my enjoyment. Still doesn’t. I did notice when in my twenties that no one over forty had adventurous listening habits, and hoped that I wouldn’t have to tone down when I hit some marker or other. (I think I’m still ok. But then, so did those squares.)

    What band would be improved by the removal of one musician, with no replacement?

    Didn’t they replace everyone in Bread with no one? If I can’t tell, then there’s your answer.

    What’s the most shocking album that you discovered a family member owned?

    Well, in my family, everyone has kept to their appropriate genres for the most part. But it fascinated my that my parents heard Billie Holiday sing “Strange Fruit” in some jazz club in Philly in ’58 or ’59, when she was kind of a mess and couldn’t finish her set.

    Is there a piece of music that represents, for you, a particular, personal state of mind? No need to share the particular, personal state of mind, but please share the musical representation of one of your unique states of mind.

    Leos Janacek’s “On an Overgrown Path.” Bowie-Eno’s “Moss Garden.”

    What’s your least-favorite of the acknowledged “great” albums by The Rolling Stones?

    They all have stuff that disappoints, and great songs, so it’s a toss up for me. If someone would do me the courtesy of thinkig Satanic Majesties were “great,” I’d have an easier time.

  25. –When you were younger, did you ever stop to wonder whether you would tire of or outgrow a particular album or artist? Which album or artist was it? Did you?

    I never thought of that when younger..but back in the day I got into “prog” and ELP was my first concert at the Spectrum. I haven’t listened to them or that genre of music in years.

    –What band would be improved by the removal of one musician, with no replacement?

    I’ll jump on the bandwagon and say Crosby from CSNY. Can’t stand that guy.

    –What’s the most shocking album that you discovered a family member owned?

    Like the General, I have a “My god! My parents went to see the Who perform Tommy at the old Electric Factory!” moment. It was my Dad’s younger brother’s doing but still!

    –Is there a piece of music that represents, for you, a particular, personal state of mind? No need to share the particular, personal state of mind, but please share the musical representation of one of your unique states of mind.

    There are a few. The Eno Instrumentals box set, the song “Baker Street” by Gerry Rafferty to name but two (very different extremes).

    –What’s your least-favorite of the acknowledged “great” albums by The Rolling Stones?

    I’m not enough of a Stones junkie to make a call here.

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